Tuesday night sees the latest embarrassing comments from Lee Charnley, this time regarding John Carver and the fans.

After reading what Mike Ashley’s minion had to say this time, when I eventually stopped laughing, I wasn’t sure what the intention was.

Are Ashley and Charnley deliberately trying to undermine John Carver, or are they and their press people really so clueless?

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Charnley has the cheek to come out and say to the Chronicle that fans should get behind the team…

It is outrageous, what on earth have the fans been doing all season other than showing blind loyalty that has been ruthlessly exploited by Mike Ashley and those like Charnley doing his dirty work.

Why didn’t Lee Charnley and his boss show support for John Carver themselves?

Firstly they hung Carver out to dry for a month after Alan Pardew walked out, pretending to look for a credible candidate.

Then just before the transfer window was closing they gave Carver the job until the summer but by then he already had a millstone around his neck of three defeats and one draw, a run which included a pathetic exit from the FA Cup where John Carver made seven changes including leaving all of the best players out. Leading the vast majority of supporters to take for granted that he’d been ordered to play a weakened team, just like Pardew before him.

Then when it comes to the squad, what kind of ‘support’ do you call leaving the newly appointed head coach with only four fit defenders, which includes Mike Williamson.

Charnley/Ashley sell Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, get Santon, Ben Arfa and the Rangers five off the wage bill at least temporarily, bank the money from Pardew’s Palace compensation, then don’t spend a penny on the squad!

Lee Charnley talking to the Chronicle;

“What we have in John is an individual who is doing absolutely everything he can to achieve positive results.

“The staff and players have responded very well to John and the changes he has made on a daily basis.”

Carver shares our aims…;

“He is Newcastle United through and through and we all know how deeply he cares about this club.

“He shares the same aim as we all do and that is to finish as high up the Premier League table as we can possibly finish.”

Get behind John;

“On that basis we felt that some of the chants (‘Are you Pardew in disguise?’) that were aimed at him at the Crystal Palace game were not helpful or indeed deserved.

“What we would ask is for the final 13 games the supporters get behind John and get behind the team.”

Only a small group of fans…;

“We acknowledge that what happened at Palace was from a small group of fans, but we would encourage everyone to focus on getting behind John and the staff and team. It will make a real difference.”

There may have been only two and a half thousand Newcastle fans at Crystal Palace but when they reacted negatively to John Carver’s…negativity, they are speaking for hundreds of thousands of people who are fed up with Mike Ashley’s running of the club, then on top of that Carver taking off Newcastle’s two most attacking players and replacing them with a left-back and a defensive midfielder. Helping the team to end up with only one strike on target in the whole 90 minutes.

If Ashley, Carver and the NUFC press people honestly think that it is only a small minority who are fed up then they are more out of touch than anybody could imagine. Just because not everybody will rant and rave, doesn’t mean they are happy!

I honestly think that they see the fifty thousand fans turning up at St. James’ Park and watching in silence  the rubbish served up, as some kind of silent majority showing their support for what is happening at Newcastle United.

Just about the only reasons I hear these days as to why fans are still intending to go is either because it is what they’ve always done, or due to the social aspect and meeting friends and family on match days.

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  • Chemical Dave

    Carver ‘Newcastle United through and through’ ? Whey aye. I’ve come to despise that lickspittle fraud even more than the bloke before him.

  • RexN

    Well said Dean. If Ashley’s hand wasn’t across his chest in that pic, I swear it would be up Charnley’s a**e

  • Conman

    A message for LC we support the team blindly even if we are boycotting the current situation. They have played Carver like a fiddle and left him out there to fail. A very cheap replacement for Pardew and he will never rock the boat.
    To be honest, I don’t think anything of this mans comments anymore. He’s a bit of a joke MD. Hopefully he’ll be off soon and we can get someone in who can take us forward and not just drop anchor in the mid table area.

  • Maximus Moose

    Living in a Bubble that Lot

  • hettonmag

    Good grief  there’s not another club in world football  that would put up with the rubbish  that’s been  thrown at them and still get full houses NUFC has probably the best away following in the league, and travel further than anybody to get humiliated time and time again. Then you have this lap dog telling fans to get behind the team, Chumley if  your coach doesn’t get the right result against Villa  you will probably feel the full wrath of 50,000 people.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    Penfold – why don’t you answer this.

    Much is made of financial stability and living within our means. FFP is quoted, yet is another example of misdirection. UEFA FFP only applies to clubs competing in European competition – most probably why your owner doesn’t want to be in any, no?

    FA FFP is far more lenient. But here’s the kicker. Commercial revenue is not counted towards what a club may spend. Since Ashley took over commercial revenue has fallen and was last reported at only 15% of club income. No doubt the loss of our retail operation as well as free wall to wall advertising benefiting SD has something to do with that.

    Prenfold – please explain why Ashley is depriving the club of commercial revenue and also failing to increase it over 8 years, which is in turn stopping us competing for better players?

  • Barthez01

    Sounds very much like carver has run home crying to his mammy about being picked on. My god if the man wasn’t such a lying hypocrite trying to pull the wool over the fans eyes then he would find the majority of fans would get behind him. Instead of continuing with pardews brand of negative football he should at least attempt to play an entertaining brand of attacking football. All we want is to be entertained, is that to much to ask for!

  • baty1963

    what i think should happen is have the WHOLE of SJP shouting are you Pardew in disguise and that might leave the Fat Controller and the little Fat  Controller in no doubt about the feelings of the suppoters and let them (Club Owner/Chairman) see that it’s not a minority that feels this way’I do feel for John Carver but we seem to have to many yes people at the club and this is what happens when you have no one to say the opposite to what the Owner/Chairman wants. lets see if we can get these parasites out of this club.

  • scotty63

    Well that will teach us to ask for more communication from the club.

  • magpiefifer

    Is anyone really surprised at the garbage coming out of the mouths of the ignorant,cynical individuals supposedly running our beloved club!!!!?
    Until the fans really show this shower that we have had enough and stay away in vast numbers nothing will change.
    The Rangers scenario is interesting to follow – Ashley is up against fans who are prepared to boycott matches and the outcome is going to be of great interest to many of us.
    We need to rid NUFC of this poisonous regime – sooner rather than later!!!

  • Sickandtiredstill

    magpiefifer Not at all surprised. Even the timing of it is transparent to me, as I think its to get people away form the Rangers story. They are worried, and nothing will convince me they don’t care about negative press.

  • Phildene

    Chemical Dave we despise the ‘Newcastle through and through’ as he can’t be! no self respecting  nufc fan would work under this regime knowing it’s going absolutely nowhere. How/why on earth Peter Beardsley is still here again knowing what he knows about the lousy stinking hierarchy puts a question mark over his loyalty to nufc-and I’m not being funny saying that either. 

    To call yourself a Geordie fan and agreeably work for that fat prick is as 50 faced as you can get and i personally can’t understand why, especially Beardsley. Caver and Stone? well they know no one out there would employ then as their coaching ‘talents’ are nil!  and Carvers had the nerve to boast about working over the pond-he got sacked!

    It’s also the fans i can’t believe. How can they still sit and watch dross knowing their money is going straight into Ashleys pocket doesn’t make sense. The word sheep comes to mind-unfortunately.

  • LeazesEnder

    Charnley IS quite literally… Mister Potato Head…

  • Seventy2

    Shall we start a knitting section at SJP?

  • DownUnderMag

    If they want us to get behind the club more (which let’s be fair given the goings on at West Ham and their season compared to ours i’m not sure what more is expected from us), then why don’t ASHLEY and his cronies back the club more themselves…i.e. buy in the players so desperately needed to strengthen the squad enough to push on in the league, look to win games and look to stay in the cup as long as possible.  These are the things that fans want to see – the club TRYING, we don’t think we will will anything, but we just want to see us at least trying!

  • Jimmywayhay

    11,500 + at a youth match ,do these people not realise the Newcastle fans crave success and entertainment ,give them it and they will go down in history and make more money than ever ,speculate to accumulate the time for prudence is over , you can’t have a squad of 24 with everyone of them having a sell on value ,for some their value is on the training ground and on the pitch!

  • Sickandtiredstill

    DownUnderMag Aye, I bet we don’t see WHU all over the news and debated by ex players for weeks to come. It’s just us needy expectant Geordies as always.

  • grahame49

    When the toon were relegated I knew something I had loved for nearly 40 years needed my loyalty and support as 41000 after away fans deducted other fans chose to do. I have since been to most home games and will continue. In years to come our under 21 fans will proudly say what one man tried to do with our club didn’t destroy us. History in battle as many a better educated man then me say is written by the victors. Alas Mr Ashley this battle is against a enemy that fights for today and decades to come. What you gain from our club is what you want not what we will ever give you love loyalty respect and dignity. Mr Ashley write your own history we know ours its in black and white

  • musicman 2000


  • No Brainer

    He is right dean unfortunately your gate is blinding you away support gas been as loud as ever but some of it not helpful the home support us fing [email protected]@e

  • No Brainer

    F off with ya rangers rubbish lad this is a toon site

  • No Brainer

    Chelsea away? Stole was awful mind

  • No Brainer

    Yawn isn’t the club in its strongest position commercially ever, according to independent analysts

  • No Brainer

    Leeds she’d we’d Portsmouth Cardiff wolves Birmingham boro notts forest marseille juve sampdoria
    The list is endless of clubs with massive falls from grace

  • No Brainer

    No you don’t the place has been a morgue since 99 at least

  • No Brainer

    That’s because your sad little man with a chip on your shoulder I still love you though

  • No Brainer

    That’s because you delude yourself

  • No Brainer

    Eh just he honest man can’t have it both ways

  • StevePassmoor

    Whatever Ashley does with Rangers has intentional consequences for Newcastle United, so the Rangers comment is as valid as anything mentioned about Newcastle

  • Brownale69

    GET out of our Club

  • StevePassmoor

    With potential for so much more though.
    Ashley’s strategy holds this potential at bay, surely even you can see that free advertising for sd inhibits the growth in commercial revenue that can be achieved

  • SusanCommon

    from a fans perspective: exactly Dean our club is no longer a football club its a  social club for its fans

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer Mixing up information once again. Not sure if you are just thicker than you believe or genuinely trying to mislead people.

    The commercial revenue figures as a % of turnover are there for all to see. They have fallen since Ashley took over and remain the lowest of all PL clubs, as per last accounts. A measly 15% reported 12/13. Last three years prior to his arrival the numbers were 26%, 32%, 32%.

    “Matchday and commercial revenue is a key driver because that is where the club can compete with – and outperform – its competitors to enhance its spending capabilities.” That is from the clubs own accounts 12/13.

    Under FFP rules commercial revenues are also excluded from allowable spending limits. The more we make, the more we can spend from that area. 

    Uncomfortable but true fact is that Ashley’s model is starving the club of potential improvement and success, not providing it.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer hahahaaha! Rangers story is a public window into how Ashley and Llambias do their dirty sordid business. What’s happening there is what happened here and still is.
    Don”t like people seeing and reading that do you? Wonder why???

  • stevennufc

    No Brainer your well named “no brainer”…..the point being made is the rangers fans are not prepared to bend over and take it….how long before the penny drops with the “support the team not the regime” lot!!!!

  • newcastle7

    The fans complained at the Stoke game when he played attacking football till the end and conceded a late goal.Then they sung anti Carver chants at Palace when he shut up shop and got a draw.However these people hate Carver because he worked with Pardew and will not be happy till he leaves.I did not join in the negative chanting and never will as all you are doing is supporting the opposition so well said Lee agree with you.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    newcastle7 One shot on target during the whole game, you moron. 
    Run along and tell your masters that the day of reckoning is building momentum.

  • No Brainer

    Sickandtiredstill No Brainer Once again you are fixated on a little piece of information that you are using in the most disingenuous manner.

    You hold up a year when the previous owners took parts of following years shirt sponsorship as a level which should be maintained.

    You also fail to acknowledge that independent analysts who spend millions analysing major football clubs stated 

    the club in its strongest position commercially ever – 

    It has taken a significant time for the club to do that but it seems it has now.

    The hate must be getting harder for you.

  • No Brainer

    StevePassmoor I tend to agree 

    I think the set up is a bit strange but the truth is if the club charges for advertising and ashley charges interest on the loan the only entity benefiting really is the govt with VAT.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer Sickandtiredstill I used three years examples, dummy. 

    You then went and did exactly the same thing as you accuse me of. You used Wonga’s money in 12/13 as an indicator of all round commercial revenue growth. 

    That still resulted in a total CR of less than 20% of total revenue for that financial year. That’s how great the deal was as it still left us way behind every other PL club.

    Numbers don’t lie, unlike you.

  • hettonmag

    No Brainer  Southampton  Swansea  Stoke  WHU  Spuds  all above us  with more ambition than us,  bank balance’s  don’t  win points.

  • TonyMarkElsender

    Knew his game 5yeard ago, sacked my ticket, not going back till fat boys gone, rather burn my money than let him have it

  • TonyMarkElsender


  • RobBrown

    Sickandtiredstill newcastle7
    This is why Charnley is 100% correct, because fans make these outrageous statements  and have nothing to back them up with.

    One shot on target! Can only assume you have a very short memory. This is not a new phenomenon. And neither is the leaking of goals in the final minutes.

    Newcastle7 is right. You all whinge when we play attacking football and you whinge when we try to defend. You moan when we play the best team then you moan when we give the kids a chance. You gripe when the management sassy nothing then you’re at it again when they make a statement.

    So Carver is in the job until the end of the season. He can’t walk away and he won’t be sacked.

    So it would actually make sense to get behind him and support the team.

    But no. We won’t do that. Because we just like bit chin’ too much.

  • RobBrown

    So just out of interest.

    You lot who are whinging all the time. Why do you keep going to the match?

    Do you have some kind of masochistic tendencies that just draw you to SJP?

    Seriously. If its so bad, why don’t you just stay at home?

    You don’t seem capable of organising a protest worth a toss – even Rangers did a better job!

    Next home game, everybody who is willing to bin their tickets – just stay at home and once and for all lets see how many of you there are.

    Personally – I doubt there’d be more than a couple of hundred.

  • magpiefifer

    TonyMarkElsender  Couldn’t agree more Tony.
    I haven’t renewed my season ticket for a few years and won’t until Ashley disappears – I despise the man and his puppets!

  • magpiefifer

    Sickandtiredstill  Spot on Sickandtiredstill – I wish more posts were as incisive and informed,then we wouldn’t waste as much time cutting through the dross.

  • No Brainer

    Its not your club it belong s to some bloke it has some very loyal supporters who through their membership show true football fanaticism thank you for being a follower of our club

  • Sickandtiredstill

    RobBrown Sickandtiredstill newcastle7
    Oh ok. Maybe you’ll accept the BBC’s match report then if not my own observations ?
    “Newcastle took the lead with their first shot on target, Papiss Cisse nodding in Daryl Janmaat’s cross”

    5 shots from us in the whole game. Only 1 on target and that was the goal. If you were there you would know, or if you could be bothered you could look up the stats. 
    Plenty more saw the same thing and reported that. Outrageous statements which aren’t backed up? Yes, yours..
    We don’t play attacking football, that’s plain for all to see. We can’t defend either.
    There aren’t any kids good enough for a 1st team place. Even less to be considered thanks to fatty loaning them to Rangers.
    The management never says anything other than to continue their own spin. 
    Funny, they and you ask us to get behind JC and the team. They haven’t. No signings, players loaned out, sold, and a very under strength squad left.
    Why the fook should we any longer???

  • Greggy164

    No Brainer  You like it both ways.Belter

  • Greggy164

    No Brainer  Are you a toon fan?

  • Sickandtiredstill

    RobBrown Coz cretins like you, calling yourself a supporter, keep filling the seats.

    It is worse than bad and trying to defend the club is a symptom of whats wrong with it.

  • No Brainer

    You noticed sweety pie

  • No Brainer

    What return them to the top division? Aye that is scary

  • No Brainer

    Black and white right through. Think more of the toon than birds beers and owt else.
    owners vome and go folks like keegan disappoint rob the money and go the waddles and the gascoignes get developed and go the cabaye’s go on strike.
    But I still go I’m still a member still have a season ticket still drink in the club bar before the game still keep all the programmes.
    chelsea this year was mint tottenham away was mint.
    Real highs loving a club, and I don’t deserve to win anything I’m no different to any sunlun forest hearts cambridge fan there isino divine right. Just support your club man support your team. F them all every one at every club would leave sell stay for more money no where is different.
    haway the lads
    now off you go to a rangers site

  • dude 1

    great piece RobBrown totally agree with you but i can tell you now these folk will still turn up in there thousands because that’s what they are sad people, for once just stay away and see what affect it has give it a try and see what happens

  • No Brainer

    RobBrown They don’t Rob its easy find out a lot about a websites traffic, over 50% of this websites traffic comes from outside the UK and more than 25% from other parts of the UK.

    I would envisage that they are using this forum site to 
    1, keep them in touch with what is a great place to live and be from.
    2, find something bad to moan about so they can justify leaving to live in somehwere a bit sh*t for a bit of extra cash.

  • No Brainer

    TonyMarkElsender good lad we don’t miss you

  • No Brainer

    magpiefifer TonyMarkElsender no room for you at the puppet show

  • No Brainer

    RobBrown Sickandtiredstill newcastle7 Chelsea last night one shot one target

  • Greggy164

    No Brainer  Im on here to be educated.

    You are a mountain of information. Plenty words of wisdom. Its a pleasure and honour to read your stuff.

    Thank you

  • Chemical Dave


  • Greekgeordie

    Palace recent record and form demanded respect, to come out with a point is considered as a success, regardless of the number of shots we had on target.
    If Carver had been more negative in the Stoke game we might have had all three points in the bag.
    There seems such hate for the present regime that what ever is happening on the pitch is irrelevant, to a small number of so called fans, and I hope that they do stick to their word and keep away from the grounds, home or away, it will make a very small difference to the home gates, and no difference at all to the away games as the demand for tickets is well above the number of tickets allocated.

  • Chemical Dave


  • Porciestreet

    RobBrown Sickandtiredstill newcastle7 
    There’s non so blind as them that refuse to see…!

  • Porciestreet

    No Brainer Good coming from a celtic fan..!

  • Chemical Dave

    dude 1 
    you’re so happy with what you’re watching you don’t make a sound.

  • Rollyp

    The protests by Rangers fans is worthwhile as Ashley owns less than 10% and there are alternatives for them to back, some shares are still held by Rangers fans in small shareholdings. So they have a chance to oust Ashley or at least keep his control down. We, unfortunately, don’t have that.

  • Billco

    They were not playing Pardews Palace.

  • No Brainer

    We aren’t paris st germain

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer but you are a regime brown nosing [email protected]@k. Think you are another club stooge along with 7.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer it belongs to the bloke you keep defending. 
    Do you have a drink problem or something? You posted last night or the night before how bad it was and that’s why you gave/were giving your ST up. 
    Your like Llambias and Co – a complete Walter Mitty.

  • No Brainer

    As usual you’re wrong I’m just the lesser spotted toon fan with brains

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer brains of a rocking horse.

  • No Brainer

    I have commited to giving up my season ticket when can next I missed the cut off for next season that is based solely ma’s decision to get us to pay for tge strengthening of the rangers club. What really annoys ne is that he is 750k if nufc money on blokes who will play for a bunch of sectarian rscists
    si I will be as above untilmay 2016 at least. Who knows what will happen between now and next january.

  • musicman 2000

    Greekgeordie respect to you for being a loyal fan and supporting the team through the good times and the bad.
    But its this blind loyalty that Ashley is exploiting he is ordering the manager too play weakened teams in the F.A Cup even garry lineker picked up on this with the sole purpose of going out and had a week away planned in the sun booked b4 the F.A cup was even played as the club new the 4th round week newcastle would have a free week as we would be out.
    Sorry but not competeing to try and win stuff is not what footballs a bout.
    But ashley has turned it in to his own personal competion were the big prize is£££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££  and cup compertions and competeing for europe dont make dollars they dont make sense to him.
    If your happy with that not to see us even try to win stuff thats up to you.
    But me personally i think as paying customers ashley needs to stop thinking whats best finanically for him self and do everything in his power to make this football club a success on the pitch becasuse thats what the fans care a bout.

  • No Brainer

    Teams who have fielded a significant number of players to their considered fitst 11 in the fa cup this year.
    west brom
    man city
    west ham
    we were also only foiled by the inept decisions of a blind linesman

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