The next meeting of the NUFC Fans Forum has been shifted back to March, with perhaps more focus on this meeting than any previous one.

Last February the club used the Fans Forum to release details of the financial figures for the 2012/13 season and it is anticipated that the same will happen at this next NUFC Fans Forum.

It is expected that the financial figures for 2013/14 will show a profit of around £50m, or even a total in excess of that, thanks in the main to the extra TV riches and Newcastle not buying any players last season, plus the sale of Yohan Cabaye. The interesting part will be how Mike Ashley presents the figures and how much he has taken out of the club against his ‘loan’, if indeed he has banked anything yet.

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Derek Llambias has already stated that he is getting rid of the official Rangers Fan Board for daring to release the minutes of the recent meeting  of club officials and supporters, with Llambias and Mike Ashley’s other man Barry Leach coming out of it particularly badly.

Derek Llambias hasn’t claimed there was any false reporting of the meeting but is still adamant he will be getting rid of the fan representatives, a move which is almost a carbon copy of when Mike Ashley banned NUST (Newcastle United Supporters Trust) from the NUFC Fans Forum for also daring to publish a personal account of what had been said between Newcastle United club officials and supporters. Once again, the club didn’t claim that anything NUST reported from the meeting hadn’t actually been said.

When publishing the minutes of the last NUFC Fans Forum which took place in October, Newcastle United stated that the next meeting would take place in February after the January transfer window.

From the October meeting’s minutes:

‘Next meeting date: February (post-January window)’

However, this was then changed to March, with the next meeting on the Monday after the Saturday match against Aston Villa. The club seemingly desperate to announce the 2013/14 vast profits on the back of a much needed match victory.

Newcastle United have already unilaterally decided that they would cut the number of Fans Forum meetings from four to three, despite supporters on the forum wanting to stick to the four meetings per year format.

Again from the October meeting minutes:

‘The club’s view was that three meetings was a better fit in relation to the start of the season, end of the January window and end of the season but that the club would remain open to additional meetings as required and would review it at the end of the season.’

I for one don’t envy the supporters who have agreed to be part of the NUFC Fans Forum.

Many Newcastle fans will be looking to those on the forum to take a lead from their equivalent at Rangers and hold the club to account, rather than allowing Mike Ashley and his minions to make fools out of them as has been the case so far.



  • Jarmin Geordie

    “The club seemingly desperate to announce the 2013/14 vast profits on the back of a much needed match victory” and who’s ambitious prophecy is this?

  • ash1001

    The next fans forum is due to be held on the 2nd March as I sit on the forum, representing the over 65s here the agenda items I have asked to be place on the agenda:-

    1 – Can the club please state in simple terms what the Aims and Objectives are of Newcastle United Football Club from both an On Field Performance (League and Various Cups) as well Financial.
    I am asking this as the club have lost there way on so many issues over the past year.

    2 – Can the Financial Director give an indication as a % percentage change the First Team Pool wage bill  for the months of February 2015 and February 2014.

    3 – Can the club give some sort of indication of the proceeds from NUFC Home Strips over a season comparing the current Puma design and finish compared with any of the Adidas ones. Can the club also make a comment on whether there were in fact 3 Puma designs put forward for sale and the club chose the cheapest one.

    The reason I am asking this is that it is a considered opinion that the current strips are just about the worst that have ever been produced for fans to purchase.

    Note – its rather ironic that the NUFC store are now promoting the 1996 shirt which was an Adidas styled one. 

    4 – Has the ban on NJC publications been lifted, and are they now allowed free speech without the ban been reimposed if in fact it has been lifted.

    5 – The Atmosphere on match days is non existent for obvious reasons, will the club reconsider:-
    a – the re-creation of a Singing Area.
    b – Allowing fans to bring Banners/Flags into the stadium.
    c-  A Standing Area

    Will have to wait and see how it turns out.

  • Hughie

    ash1001 All useful, but you’ve missed a crucial question, namely ,

    Will the club be making a transfer budget available in the summer window, and can you give any indication of the figure? 

    Please add that or ask someone else to raise.

  • gavinv1972

    Will anyone raise the questions:
    How much is still owed on the interest free loan from Mike Ashley
    Does Mike Ashley intend to sell the club at the end of the 2015/16 season

  • Wingpaddock

    ash – cannot see the point in asking about strips to be honest. Ask them to produce original documentary evidence that Pardew paid the £100,000 fine.
    Ask about the £500,000 or so that was supposed to be for purchase of strips and wharehousing – need accounting proof that that value of goods came back to the club.
    Ask a follow up about who benefits from the Ashley loan -him or the club. (first mentioned at a FF meting)

    Ask about who pays the wages for the Rangers five.
    Has any person been formally interviewed for the Head Coach role (don’t need to know who).
    Come on Ash -unless you know some of your colleagues are going to probe a bit -really should be putting this lot on the spot  -get them to commit to a reply. The answer to sometimes daft questions creates a fixed position that subsequently is difficult to change by those who are not totally truthful.
    Best of luck!

  • No Brainer

    Wingpaddock 
    Pardew fine – pointsless chicken feed
    500K whats that about? please expand sounds interesting I know Freddy used to do this.
    Benefits both mainly him in the long run but definitely the club as well there is no benefit to anyone other than the GOVT in charging for adverts and charging interest, i.e. V.A.T.

    We are paying the Rangers five we also it seems paid a conciliatory amount to the agents to organise FFS
    Well, I suppose we know John has

  • No Brainer

    ash1001 I understand but won’t they just point out

    1. the league cup this year was a successful run i think you will agree but nobody could have forseen the injuries the team would face for both the league and the league cup for the end of November and December.

    2. Don’t think you’ll get a straight answer but good question.

    3. Thats an opinion piece I like the strip others don’t kind of the same with every strip. 

    4. I can answer that the new MD at NCJ is a very nice chap who is able to make peace with Saddam and Mr Dubya Bush, but you will see gentle complaint, which we are, but you won’t see anything like the tosh which has been aimed at the club largely unfairly in my opinion.

    5. A. Singing section how sad the whole place should be jumping.
      B. Yes a lot of these should be on show.
        C. Yes the East stand should be our standing area

  • Wingpaddock

    no brainer – you miss the point -the Pardew fine is not about the amount. It is a figure that originated at a certain date, a nice round sum that should be able to be tracked through the accounts or probably more importantly was it ever made.
    Could be paid up front or perhaps deducted from monies due -nevertheless a very trackable figure. The purpose is to see if they were all telling the truth.
    If you do not know about the half a million paid from the club to SD for stips/wharehousing I suggest you need to expand you knowledge a bit – it is in the FF minutes.
    Was Carver formally interviewed – you need to be able to differentiate between words like -contact/spoken to/interviewed and the specific phrase “formally interviewed” – which has a different meaning to the previous examples.
    Please give details of where I can research myself how the Rangers five are being paid.

  • the blueman

    Oh howay lads you know why they delayed the fans meeting ,,, its because of the good finacial year they had , coz the fat git has his accountant on zero hours now so its taking a bit longer for them to count all the cash they made

  • the blueman

    If you want to konw were the 5 hundred grand went it went to the bookies to pay of pardews gambling debts and thats not the first time its happened,,,, allegedly

  • mactoon

    ash1001  pretty insipid questions to be honest.

    1. Can you explain as a football club owner why there is no ambition in terms of improving the first team squad
    2. Why as a football team do we not aim to have a cup run when we are in a relatively safe position in the league
    3. Attendance is now down around 10,000 to the previous season, does this not tell you the direction of the club is wrong?
    4. What percentage of profit do NUFC get from sales of merchandice from  their own club shop
    5. Why have lessons not been learned that failure to buy players in the January window will weaken the squad when injuries inevitably occur and will cause a lot more damage to the season than an attempt at a decent cup run
    6. Why has the method of using Sports Direct as a ‘showcase’ to potential sponsors not been changed when it is obviously not working and simply provides free advertising to a company that has no connection to NUFC. Surely advertising the space by showing messages like “To advertise your company here, telephone XXXX XXX XXX” will attract more interest
    7. Given that NUFC has become one of the business entities of the MASHLEY group of companies, can you confirm that no funds raised from NUFC have been or are intended to be transferred or used by any of the other MASHLEY companies?
    8. Why is Rangers merchandise being sold on the NUFC club shop
    9. Who is paying the wages of the NUFC players loaned to Rangers and is te club following the normal protocol in respect of paying loanee wages?

    You get the idea.. these are the type of questions fans need answering

  • mactoon

    ash1001 needing to be asked at the fans forum with the club

    1. Can you explain as a football club owner why there is no ambition in terms of improving the first team squad
    2. Why as a football team do we not aim to have a cup run when we are in a relatively safe position in the league
    3. Attendance is now down around 10,000 to the previous season, does this not tell you the direction of the club is wrong?
    4. What percentage of profit do NUFC get from sales of merchandice from  their own club shop
    5. Why have lessons not been learned that failure to buy players in the January window will weaken the squad when injuries inevitably occur and will cause a lot more damage to the season than an attempt at a decent cup run
    6. Why has the method of using Sports Direct as a ‘showcase’ to potential sponsors not been changed when it is obviously not working and simply provides free advertising to a company that has no connection to NUFC. Surely advertising the space by showing messages like “To advertise your company here, telephone XXXX XXX XXX” will attract more interest
    7. Given that NUFC has become one of the business entities of the MASHLEY group of companies, can you confirm that no funds raised from NUFC have been or are intended to be transferred or used by any of the other MASHLEY companies?
    8. Why is Rangers merchandise being sold on the NUFC club shop
    9. Who is paying the wages of the NUFC players loaned to Rangers and is te club following the normal protocol in respect of paying loanee wages?

    You get the idea.. these are the type of questions fans need answering

  • newcastle7

    Attendances are well up on last season five hundred a game so no need to mention Villa being a near sell out,we got to the quarter finals of a cup,signed quality in De Jong,Jammett and Cabella,so you can cross those ones off the list.

  • Greggy164

    Hes cooking the books. Skimming so he can send money to Glasgow

  • dont believe the hype

    For those of us interested in what the club has to say or at least used to be, the minutes from a Fans Forum were much anticipated, but as we can’t believe a word they say anymore they have has much substance and credibility as the Daily Star Horoscopes.

  • dont believe the hype

    newcastle7  Are you being sarcastic ? I’m new to this particular forum !

  • LeazesEnder

    The whole purpose of a Fans Liaison meeting is for the club to meet the fans…. we still haven’t been invited…. its just Bob Moncur Wendy Taylor and a surfeit of biscuits.

    When is the board going to allow the club its own revenue streams in advertising and merchandise….. instead of abdicating its responsibilities to its own organisation in favour of another namely S**** D*****?

    Would any of the fans appointed by the club to the forum like to ask that one!

  • LeazesEnder

    ash1001 Do you really look like that?

  • MikeAshleyLies

    1. £129m. Likely to reduce to £111m in the accounts.
    2. The previous statement remains true.

  • Greggy164

    dont believe the hype  Do you think theres a chance that the minutes could be manipulated or altered? Surely you can trust the people from the fans side?

  • dont believe the hype

    Not so much the minutes being altered just the fact that the only questions being put forward are the ones the club allow, anything they don’t want us to hear gets rejected.

  • mactoon

    newcastle7

    “Attendances are well up on last season five hundred a game so no need to mention Villa being a near sell out,”

    NUF v Burnley            51,761
    NUFC v Southampton 49,307
    NUFC v Stoke             47,763

    “we got to the quarter finals of a cup,”

    The Directors have publically stated NUFC do not see cups as a priority and use them as a chance to give younger players experience. The first cup team Carver played contained 7 changes and no regular first team players on the bench blaming “injuries” even though they were all back for the next match and he promised to play his strongest team

    “Signed quality in De Jong,Jammett and Cabella.”

    But these players are always signed on the back of selling our best players for a huge profit and buying cheaper less talented players thereby continually weakening our first team squad

    So i’m sorry but I can’t cross those of the list of questions we SHOULD be asking