John Carver it is then we assume…

That is the unequivocal message being read into recent comments from one Lee Charnley regarding the fan support and the club’s backing of John Carver.

Never, amongst any of the howls of derision and downright verbal abuse hurled at Pardew, did Charnley ever feel the need to come out and back his manager in the way that he has done for Carver. This being over a rather minor incitement by the fans in the Palace away game.

The first thought we all had was that this was paving the way for John Carver to get the job full-time come the summer, barring a complete implosion and catastrophic failure for the rest of the season.

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But rather than the board and owner back their man in the January window to give him a squad to excel (or at least compete) with, they have put the emphasis firmly on the fans to ‘back the head coach’ more.

We all know the squad is in dire need of a revamp and strengthening, but this doesn’t excuse the fact that the man himself has claimed that 1 win from 6 PL games is “not bad in this league”, despite that run contained limp draws to the likes of Burnley, Stoke and Palace, not to mention an additional woeful cup defeat to Leicester and our only win coming against a poor Hull side.

No offence John, but that is relegation form, not something that ‘isn’t too bad’.

This does raise concerns about what the owner has in store for the coming season.  Are we going to limp along with as little investment as possible before a sale as soon as Rangers are back in the mix of the SPL?  Is John Carver just a cheaper option and one so desperate for the job that he will take whatever Ashley hands out with a smile?

If alarm bells weren’t ringing before, there is an Anthrax siren blaring its way down Barrack Road right now.

I am all for giving a local lad his chance, we all want to see a Geordie at the helm…but that job needs to be given on the back of results, qualifications and a decent track record, not just because it is the cheapest option.

Carver would be due a payout should he be told to leave, so perhaps this is another case of the club coming a very distant second to Ashley saving a few pounds.

Let’s hope that the board see the light and either get someone in who can fill the role properly, or at least give Carver the player recruitment that he deserves, to be given a fair crack at the job and that the comments of supporting him require the board to also show  ‘support’ for their appointment.



  • Paul Patterson

    I don’t see the difference in Carver or Pardew to be honest.
    If Pardew had been backed with any credible amount of money, playrs replaced when others left and given a remit higher than just staying in the league, then Alan would have still been in charge.
    The club finished 5th and needed 3-4 players to maintain this and give the EUROPA League a good go- we got Vernon Anita.
    Demba Ba was sold- We sat on our thumbs and failed to buy a decent striker (Still outstanding this one).
    We go a good pre-christmas run with potential to finish top 6- We sell Yohan Cabaye, get knocked out of the FA Cup on club orders and the season implodes.
    We go on another good run this season with signs of a top 7 finish but with no signs of investment plus player sales, whilst fans still dislike the manager- The manager says enough is enough and gets handed a get out of jail free card.
    Result- Once again we are left with substandard tools to finish the season with.
    He didn’t help himself, far from it. But he wasn’t the biggest problem at this club . .

  • Sickandtiredstill

    If 80+ expressed an interest in the job and the best of them was JC, that should tell everyone all that is needed about the club/regime.

  • killyted

    its got cashley the barraboy written all over it.Top 17 secured, that means money ,4 fit defenders,midfield ok forwards shy on the ground,no cups trophys just money,this is the blue print under cashes ownership like it our lump it with a paper thin squad

  • Brownale69

    Does anyone believes 80 were in the Q ? I wonder if they bothered talking to anyone. Bunch of liars.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    Brownale69 Well, mate – judging by some posts whenever FDB, Galtier, Garde, Benitez are mentioned, I think some actually do!

  • Chemical Dave

    Why would we all like to see a Geordie at the helm ? Personally I couldn’t care less where the manager is from, as long as he’s trying his best to make the team as competitive as it can be who cares ?
    Besides, Carver is now so fluent in “Pardew” it’s wrong to describe him as a Geordie.

  • Jarra MIck

    Well said Dave couldn’t give a flying fcuk where the manager comes from except 5under1and of course. as long as he has some football nous. To be honest though anyone who will sell their soul to the Ashley regime will never be welcomed by the majority of fans and as soon as things go wrong they will be turned on. Am I the only one who is fed up with Carver, I am a fan and I worked with sir Bobby patter. News for you John while you were in Canada we were supporting the toon so don’t think for a minute you are some sort of superfan, you fcuked off as soon as you got a better offer.

  • mick57

    I agree we want a quality coach or manager don’t care where he was born. However we have more chance of winning the champions league than getting one. Why would any reputable coach come to us with such a dire squad a leadership team whose only ambition is to finish in the top ten, not have any funds and where his best players are sold behind his back. The future is as bleak as during our last relegation

  • DownUnderMag

    Jarra MIck I wasn’t particularly referring to that we NEED a Geordie at the helm but that it would be nice to see a local lad come good.  I do agree that there is no requirement for the coach to be from the region or support the club…obviously we would all prefer a quality coach and good players to work with…

  • DownUnderMag

    Sickandtiredstill Brownale69 i’m fairly certain that if I had put a letter of application in then it would have been classed as 81 in order to spin the PR.

  • No Brainer

    Who are the players from our first team that you want replaced and who do you want to replace them and how much would they cost?

  • No Brainer

    mick57 For a top notch squad of players in first class training and medical facilities, and  not forgetting £2-3m per year?

    Measure that against what Sean Dyche, Eddie Howe Steve McLaren, F D Boer have now, its and easy answer

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer What – are you going to give us all another lecture on financial stability and living within our means? Your boss has been doing that for 8 years while he makes himself even richer.

  • No Brainer

    Sickandtiredstill No Brainer Yes, weren’t you whinging on here saying MA doesn’t speak making him arrogant? 
    Maybe people like him are the way they are as where ever they are what ever they say there is some jerky little upstart ready to shout till there tonsils hurt. Its just pointless task probably best to just get one with what they are intending to do.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer Sickandtiredstill nah. Llambias and Leach show why Ashley doesn’t talk. It’s so he can’t make himself look the complete two faced lying greedy bag of shyte he is.
    Nowt said = no chance of slipping up. Getting on with what he intends to do is exactly what he’s done. Got richer. 
    NUFC? Can barely muster 4 fit defenders, Shame on you for defending this regime.

  • No Brainer

    Sickandtiredstill No Brainer I’m not feeling any shame, Manchester united had the same scenario in September and out of that came Paddy McNair ta da some times sh*t happens, deal with it. 
    You are and angry little elf aren’t you!

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer mick57 Top notch squad??? Hahahahahaha!
    FDB, sitting 2nd in the league with Ajax? Dyche, Howe, McClaren – you’re aiming high I see.

    Oh my Lord. You truly are a cub stooge.

  • No Brainer

    You obviosly have no idea about management. You can only manage the assests you have at your disposal and those four are doing pretty well.
    it shows the depth of your character that your inference is to look a manager who is already at a champions league club level, who spends and wastes far too much money. Child like really aren’t you.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer Err, potato head – you mentioned FDB. 

    I have plenty of experience of management. I have no experience of managing North Korean style though.

  • No Brainer

    More churlish garbage from the angry elf.
    FDB is a valid inclusion with that group as he has to manage in the same way they do as the next/incumbant nufc coach will/does having players determine to leave when they see fit. Thats just life get over it only fans gullability decides whether it is for more money or career development.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer You’re like Bellamy. Could start and hold an argument in an empty room.

    Your words on FDB – “your inference is to look a manager who is already at a champions league club level, who spends and wastes far too much money.”

    Now you say he was a valid inclusion. Can you even recall what you write? WTF are you drinking for breakfast???

  • No Brainer

    Sickandtiredstill No Brainer Your have an outstanding   inability to comprehend the most simple of points.

    None of the four managers I mentioned have all of “top notch squad of players in first class training and medical facilities, and  not forgetting £2-3m per year?”

    You tried to respond by poo pooing the four of them singling out FDB without any reference other than the dutch league position and a question mark neglecting to take any account of how the current crop of nufc players would perform in that league. Considering its the lack of quality that would lead most nufc fans struggling to name 10 teams in the league FDB clearly doesn’t have what any prospective nufc manager would.

    By writing “you’re aiming high I see.” you infer none are good enough for you, so I am correct or would you wish to think a bit harder about what it is you actually wanted to say. 
    Your hate gets in the way.

    I love writing with you, you make me feel everything is really okay and the whingers are as i thought just talking out your ah-sez.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer Sickandtiredstill If the club has something to say, it should come out and say it and not use moronic posters like you.

    Only you seem to believe yourself in that we have a top squad of players. A squad incidentally which still includes Ferryra and a bunch of hospital cases.

    Fat lot of good those training and medical facilities are doing, eh? Tax reduction dressed up as inward investment.

    No wonder you love Ashley and Penfold loves you.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer Sickandtiredstill Your post on another article –
    “I absolutely do not understand why nufc did not look to sign a new partner for colo in the August transfer window, it is an area where we need some significant strengthening in the team. MYM is a good player who is not suited to the PL or didn’t get the chance to adapt due to the previous manager so it was best to let him go.

    Whilst clear that Mike Williamson is a very good defender he has his limitations and is obviously not the man to put in defence against skilful nimble players often does well against those more brawn power players. That being the case and with S Taylor not offering anything different it beggars belief that this wasn’t addressed back in august never mind in January. 

    We should all not go back until one is signed.”

    As I said, you can argue with yourself until the cows come home.

  • No Brainer

    Look man the way your hankering for keegan and the 3 good years (well the second one was maybe just alright) he had. Well they were built on sand unfortunately.
    Your protestations make those villa prats with their banner look like a asute judge of character, an embarrassnent to the northeast.
    Boo hoo

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer “We should all not go back until one is signed.”

    Your words.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer Sickandtiredstill
    “We should all not go back until one is signed.” 
    Stick with that line of yours, you oyster munching Ashley defender.

  • No Brainer

    Oh you don’t want me employed as a defender for ashley, I would make lanky mike look like thiago silva

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer We all know that’s your employment. 
    Reckon you and Simon Carr and nowt but the night shift security plods at St James’.

  • No Brainer

    Wrong I work for themag.co.uk driving web traffic delivering more opportunities to see the adverts to pay for our beer and season tickets.
    imagine how much time you would have spent on hear if we just had folks slapping each other on the back.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer Smashing. I’ll drop Mark an email to enquire. Obviously not hard to figure out who you are supposed to be.
    Fookin liar.

  • No Brainer

    Ha ha that got you jumping If you can’t take get off the forum you use so desperstly to dish out your hate.
    I’ll be shining my torch around Sportsdirectarena from 10:30 till seven should you want to meet up. I’ll let you have a look at thetrophy room.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer  Walter Mitty and Billy Liar rolled into one. I hope The Mag feels the same way you do for impersonating one of them.
    C’ya, [email protected]@k.

  • No Brainer

    Oh I’m sure. It’s taken you a little while to reply, it’s often a problem for your ilk acting in the childish manner you approach these discussions hate, when met with ironic contempt for your wild accusation in relation to my employment, it was no surprise you wrote ‘I’ll email Mark’ can you not see how that makes you look? Is it not obvious by the beer and season tickets quip that I was accepting your invitation to extract the urine from you such an open invitation it was.
    As I often do on a friday after days of tediius sh*t from you. What are your thoughts on the toons game tmrw or will you not be watching until aguero silva messi and courtois have signed.
    Keep reading the messages from the sponsors.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer “We should all not go back until one is signed.”
    The best and most honest thing you’ve ever posted.

  • No Brainer

    Sickandtiredstill No Brainer Tick