Here’s a thought…

I would like to pose a question.

I have been saying for a while that, in my unconsidered opinion, the way that NUFC is being run is contrary to the accepted rules of competitive sport.

What I mean by this stems from when football was in its infancy and clubs like the Toon were being formed, it was in the spirit of togetherness and friendly rivalry, people supported their local team come what may and took it on the chin when they lost.

The raison d’etre of any competitive sport is to win, every game, never take the field with anything else in mind and the players give their all. Now I know of course that teams often lose but it comes very hard, winning is everything. We must strive to be the best we can be; this is the ethos around which the game as we know it has evolved… Until now that is.

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It is common knowledge that in recent seasons at NUFC there is no interest in cup competitions and the goal is to finish above the relegation zone in the Premier League to elicit huge TV revenue as cheaply as possible.

As a business model, given the prospective income, it must have the bank manager turning cartwheels. The trouble is it totally corrupts the purpose of the club, to run any sporting institution in this way would do the same. How do you manage the team when the cup is an unnecessary hindrance and you are content to finish fifteenth in the league?

There must be games when you do not put the strongest team out, deliberately; if you manage to nick the game all well and good, you can always put a weak team out in the next round and the fans are conned into thinking the club tried, if they lose – job done, now they can concentrate on finishing fifteenth by limiting investment and selling off the best players.

I know that the owners are entitled to try to make money but using a region’s football team as a way to promote another empire and to openly display total contempt for ambition, is rotten to the core.

The football authorities have a responsibility to see that football clubs are run in the right spirit, we often hear about due diligence and is a prospective owner a fit and proper person, well we all know what that means, how did they come by their wealth and is there anything in their past which would preclude them from owning one of our football clubs.

Well I believe there should be more to it than that. Having bought the club, what do they intend to do with it? Not many people could have imagined that the new owner, who is probably initially seen by tens of thousands of loyal fans as a saviour, was actually going to manipulate it for his own ends entirely to promote his business empire, with a total disregard for the sport or the reason the thing exists in the first place.

The question is this. As it stands Newcastle United Football Club is lost to its fans and there are only 19 competitive teams in the league.

Surely the FA, the Premier League, UEFA and more recently the SFA have a responsibility to make sure that all clubs are run in the right spirit, to always be the best they can be… Or deem the owner unfit?

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  • mentalman

    Yawn

  • Paul Patterson

    And with £99m being paid to the club that finishes bottom in 2016/17, were not likely to be competitive ever again . .

  • supermacsnewname

    It is pointless to keep making comments like this – we may hate it but that’s what the owner wants and 50,000 are prepared to pay to see it
    we can’t change it – so make your mind up – get over it or walk away
    I choose to get over it – cos owners come & owners go, managers come & managers go, players come & players go – but NUFC will go on forever
    Nobody forsaw the Keegan years, we seemed doomed to relegation to the 3rd tier – then in a few years we soared to heights that astonished us – we won nowt, but it was great
    And things are about to change again
    The big new money will make Ashley’s business plan obsolete – he will have to change or loose his investment
    – every PL club will have buckets of cash so the cost & wages of decent players will soar, top players will flock to england – there will be no more bargain basement options, promoted clubs will invest heavily to compete, bottom clubs will buy big in january to stay up
    – any club that doesn’t will be crushed
    – so Ashley’s business plan is yesterday’s money maker – a new one is about to arrive
    HWTL

  • supermacsnewname

    Paul Patterson we need to think this through, if you are bottom you get relegated and loose the cash cow – it would cost far more to get back into the PL than making sure you stay there – and who would buy the club then? he has to invest heavily just to stand still

  • Paul Patterson

    I disagree. The clubs below us at present are prepared to spend, we aren’t, yet look at the table- were still safe in mid table and are unlikely to get sucked into a relegation battle . .

  • supermacsnewname

    Paul Patterson I agree not this season – but next season will be very different and the one after a complete new culture

  • Steve1221

    Let’s be honest in this respect we’re not different from 75% of the league, do you really think Swansea, Stoke, West Brom etc etc have any real goal outside staying it the league?

  • Sickandtiredstill

    supermacsnewname Paul Patterson He’s going to have to ‘invest’ whatever happens. 6 million quid foreign players will become 12 or 15 million quid players if a PL club (NUFC and the likes) wants them. That’s the way foreign clubs can also enjoy feeding at the trough of Sky’s money. 
    You think Ashley will be ‘forced’ to buy? Nah, he’ll tell Carr to look even lower. It may just be what forces his hand as he will not spend any more of his own money. 
    Surviving in the PL with bottom drawer players is not going to be sustainable much longer.

  • Moonraker15

    No but those clubs are trying to finish as high as they can and buying players to achieve that and they are trying to win a cup. One last point; we should be at a higher level than all those clubs with our support and potential !

  • No Brainer

    Qtr final spurs away just in december. Hampered by a badly injured squad with third choice kid if a gk dropping expected howlers. We didn’t even drop players as you suggest.
    There is nothing in the proof of perfirmances a few honest words about priorities have been taken as a north Korean dictat as to what a viach has to do. It really isn’t like that

  • No Brainer

    Suppisedly karl darlow pulled off some ourstanding saves today

  • Alsteads

    The photo of the ground got me. Thats how i remember it as a kid starting out on my journey with NUFC. Had some absolutely mental times, good times and down right bad. Right now it just feels like the club i knew and grew up on is being taken away to a point it will never get bucket a place where I/we can enjoy it again

  • Adam_B

    supermacsnewname 
    a good point and some cause for optimism, thank you!

  • No Brainer

    Everything stays the same with players the only real winners

  • scotty63

    No Brainer and let in 4

  • magpie9

    Ashley bought the club off a man in a hospital bed, enough said, bet he stole the grapes as he left & danced all the way out

  • magpie9

    1957  Should be a team salary cap & a team squad size limit. What other league in world lets a team like Chelsea sign an extra 30 players surplus to their needs, lend them out to the opposition with stipulation they can play against everyone but Chelsea. E.P.L. the league that money can buy

  • GToon

    Steve1221 Well ok but Swansea at least try and win games and have won a cup recently and dont cry about being in Europe. Stoke are trying to get in the top 10 and played in a recent fa cup final. WBA are limited by their income but are very similar to us in terms of aspirations which for us are limited by ashley.

  • GToon

    supermacsnewname Paul Patterson next season we need to replace Colo and Willo and buy at least one new forward and probably replace Sissoko. Can’t see any of that happening, so yes, we might go down next year.

  • GToon

    magpie9 and unplugged the monitoring equipment to charge his phone for free too probably.

  • Steve1221

    I picked those 3 at random but qualifying for Europe ultimately got Laudrup the sack, I’ve heard them, Liverpool and Tottenham complain about it in recent years. Unless a sheikh or an oil tycoon is ploughing money in everyone outside the top 6/7’s income is pretty similar given how much the tv money skews things.

  • GToon

    Steve1221 But ask their fans what their hopes and clubs aims are. “Do well in the league and try for a cup”. What are ours? Stay in the league and get knocked out of the cups. Thats the difference which is why our ground is so quiet these days.

  • Steve1221

    Their goal is the exact same as ours, stay in the league and if we do well in the cup it’s a bonus, the number of changes we make for cup games is no different from any other club.

  • No Brainer

    Would tgat be bexause we did spend and bought in the with perez cabella janmatt colback all now mainstays in the team if the club keeps tgat up each year that mwans a whole new gull team every three years now that would be unheaed if, wouldn’t it. Fir any team even chelsea or man u.

  • No Brainer

    Your right! So right it kind of takes tge wind out of your saila

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer Perez, was a 1.5 million punt who has dug out blind to prove himself when thrown into the team. Pardew said he was a development player and ‘for the future’. 

    Given that we are down to the bare bones of a squad I fail to see the investment and new team you talk of.

    A new team of shite every 3 years means just a team of shite. End of.

  • Porciestreet

    As an owner/Chairman, Nikey Mikey has done no more or less than McKeeg, Westwood, Hall and Sheperd. The Chair of any business owes it to his company and himself/family to make as much as he can out of it but I believe that this is the most vile and despised person ever to hold the position at NUFC and the day he either leaves or drops dead can’t come soon enough, and I’ll say one more thing, that if any one can be hated more than I hated Thatcher, then they must be pretty vile. Cashley OUT.!

  • Porciestreet

    magpie9 1957 
    They can still only register a 25 man squad per season..!

  • Porciestreet

    Alsteads 
    The east stand was’nt there and there was a shed on the Leazes when I started And a bottle of broon was about1/9d is memory serves. Thats ten to the pound, not that I was interested of course.

  • Porciestreet

    GToon Steve1221 
    Oh for the days of Mr Keegan…..!

  • Porciestreet

    supermacsnewname 
    And you saw all this in your cornflakes residue…? Well I hope you’re right mate because we have a loooong way to go to get back even to basics when this tw4t has finished licking the bowl.

  • magpie9

    Porciestreet magpie9 1957  You are missing the point that they can play against their rivals but not against themselves therefor making it so much easier  for them.

  • Porciestreet

    magpie9 Porciestreet 1957 
    Got ya but cant see that it gives them so much of an advantage.

  • Alsteads

    Lol a little bit before my time maybe fella.
    I just spent 10 minutes replying to your post at the top before the bloody screen went off and lost the lot!!
    With yee on everything you say fella but I can’t seem to remember the previous mob throwing cup games year after year. I know people roll out it’s all about premier league survival blah blah but have you seen some of the shxte in that league! If we are worried about that we need to pack the fix king game in!
    Imagine going for your dinner time pint today with the lads as a Blackburn fan? What a buzz!! I still say one of the best season I’ve had in recent times is when we went down. Going to some proper grounds, home teams applauding our fans cos we’d took thousands to the axse end of now where on a Tuesday night. It was an enjoyable change from the premier league regime. I’d settle for a few years of that now yee know! Just so I can look forward to my weekends instead of the self imposed exile and disappointment I have now.
    Even tried giving the Heed a go but it’s not the same!
    I’m off to get the papers to read fxck all about the toon again cos we didn’t have a game. Hopefully there will be a good article on Bradford!

  • No Brainer

    Those are not nice things to say Ashley out would suffice.

  • No Brainer

    Aye thats right a team of sh**e a team that has so far this season beaten spurs man city chelsea liverpool aye complete garbage.

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer This is a shyte team,  with a shyte coach and a shyte owner.  Other than one season out of 8 now it hasn’t fared much better either.
    Doesn’t matter which individual occasional game is won, be it against Chelsea or however.

  • No Brainer

    I think those four woukd count as a collection
    onwards and upwords

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer Courtesy of NUFC Blog. Llambias feels the real wrath of a supporter – sound familiar?
    “It is the second time this has happened to Derek in a hotel bar in Glasgow.” “Neither Derek nor Mike Ashley can understand why there is hostility to the new set-up at Rangers.”
    “They want to rebuild Rangers into a strong and exciting team capable of challenging Celtic again and being a force in Europe again but it must be on the back of a strong financial position similar to the one they implemented at Newcastle United.”

  • No Brainer

    Source?

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer Scottish edition of Daily Express

  • Greekgeordie

    Porciestreet  By including Thatcher in your comments, devalues your agreement to a political level, and we all know that politics and wisdom never walk together.

  • Fozzyworld

    CarrieArmstrng NUFCTheMag Sorry, wasn’t the intention. :-)

  • Greekgeordie

    There is a plan we like it or not, and all the shite thrown to Ashley Car and the rest will make no difference, as a fan you have a choice walk away or live with it.
    The only way you can influence events is by putting your money where your mouth (or keyboard) is.

  • pissed off mag

    50,000 people wishing ashley would have a massive heart attack and go tits up, oh please karma work your magic

  • No Brainer

    Spend spend spend

  • Sickandtiredstill

    No Brainer Aye, that would be a novelty for the fat greedy barsteward.