It is not only Rafa Benitez who isn’t seeing eye to eye with the club hierarchy this summer.

Tuesday morning  brings news that despite the season now being two games old, the Newcastle players still haven’t been offered an acceptable bonus arrangement for this season.

The Shields Gazette have revealed the news, saying that there is a final deadline of the start of next month by when agreement must be reached.

The local newspaper reports that at the end of last season, the Newcastle players, along with non-playing staff, shared bonuses of £5m for winning the Championship.

With the riches provided by the Premier League, the Newcastle squad are looking for a bonus arrangement which is in line with the top tier.

Apparently a guaranteed giant Sports Direct mug for each player plus a pair of white sports socks per player for every point gained, didn’t impress the United players…

In situations like this it is always the knee jerk reaction of many fans to think of greedy players but that is a daft way of looking at it.

Of course football players get paid crazy amounts of money but realistically, the only way a club can ever have any hope of succeeding is if they treat their key people right and give them whatever is the industry standard.

It isn’t the first time the Newcastle players have been in dispute over bonus arrangements.

Back in summer 2010 (after a Newcastle promotion…), the Newcastle players committee famously went up against Mike Ashley.

The likes of Nolan, Smith, Barton and Harper were the experienced players who represented the squad and wouldn’t bow to Ashley’s will, Chris Hughton backing them as well.

It later emerged that Mike Ashley had allegedly taken it very badly and vowed to get rid of all of the main movers from the club, sure enough Hughton was removed a few months later with United safe in mid-table and none of the players involved got another contract at NUFC.

The divide and rule by Ashley then saw him reportedly push Pardew into appointing Fabricio Coloccini, a player who the owner got on well with and was so weak as a leader, wouldn’t even give TV interviews on behalf of the team/club.

Whilst doubts remain as to whether Jamaal Lascelles is one of Newcastle’s best 11 players, he has certainly impressed with his willingness to speak out and represent the squad as club captain. So you can assume that he must be a key person in this bonus dispute.



  • MichaelMaximusMoose

    If Don Mike had his way they`d be sleeping with the fishes

  • Geordiegiants

    I agree they get to much, but as you say it’s industry standard. We need harmony not divide, Jabba just stoops to another level nearly every days

    • Oooh bobbi fleckman

      Wait ’til you know the detail, bonus incentives are very much Mike’s way

      • Guest 2

        Surprise you can type with your hand so firmly grasped around the fat one’s [email protected]

        • Oooh bobbi fleckman

          Brilliant

  • TheFatController

    For all the talk of fan boycotts and protests and empty stadiums getting rid of Ashley, it’s actually a good manager and the good players standing up to Ashley that would make life difficult for him.

    You can’t have a reputation for treating Sports Direct staff poorly, then fall out with your manager and players at a football club. Where do you go from there ? You may get an out of work second rate manager but you’ll never get any good players – the days of picking up players from the continent easily would be gone as they have many more clubs now as options

    And further to this point that the biggest factor in getting rid of Ashley is the manager and players taking him on, I am surprised some on here think the answer to 10 years of lies and mis management from Ashley is for Rafa to be more upbeat (?)

    Every blind eye Rafa turns, for every lie he sweeps under the carpet, is a victory for Ashley’s despotic rule of this club. Long live King Ashley, be positive Rafa his loyal serf…?? Think about it.

  • East Durham Mag

    Fatty treats Newcastle United as a subsidiary of MASH and SD nothing more nothing less. All he wants is yes men from top to bottom. A man with nothing more as an ambition than self enrichment and no emotional ties to this football club.

    • Jezza

      Spot on.

      • East Durham Mag

        And yet Jezza people come on and defend him. Bonkers.

        • Geordiegiants

          They aren’t bonkers, they are just idiots.

          • Leazes Ender

            Idiot Brothers Kev and Dave Lee….. Clarko and fleckman.

        • Oooh bobbi fleckman

          I’ll defend things that are not proven, untrue or very unlikely & unsubstantiated. Basically, tittle tattle

          • Guest 2

            Tittle tattle like a barbecue story?

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            Do you not believe it? It’s in the Mag

    • Oooh bobbi fleckman

      Although he’s a Newcastle fan?

      • Geordiegiants

        No he isn’t, he is a Chelsea fan if you believe him.

      • East Durham Mag

        Really? Nobody would know.

        • Oooh bobbi fleckman

          Search the mag articles for ‘barbecue’, there is a story about an old school friend of Mike’s

          • East Durham Mag

            Just read it. He needs to start acting a bit more like a supporter then. Still find it hard to believe.

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            He’d argue that he’s rescued the finances of NUFC.

            I actually think a partner owner would be a good thing, buy 49.9% of shares from mike and match his lending. That way we have ‘new’ money to use and the discourse may evaporate.

          • Guest 2

            What’s he loaned for player purchases?

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            £12m looks like the amount advanced for last season.

          • Guest 2

            12 mil went on buying a player or players did it? Go take your head for a [email protected] Carbon copy of relegation 1 including the loan – which again repaid part of his previous loan.

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            It almost certainly financed the cost of running the business with a reduced TV income. Transfer instalments, wages etc. It really doesn;t matter it the money was used to buy Gayle and Clark or used to pay their wages, it was needed.

          • Guest 2

            He ‘needed’ to repay himself 18 million, did he? And yet they still posted a profit of 4.2 million.

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            As an accounting process yes, the new amount is reported at £30m with the £18m due on demand being repaid so the new £30m advance provided £12m of new funding.

          • Guest 2

            So why did he ‘demand’ the repayment? Can’t argue the club took a hit and needed money – then support the fat slug putting himself first again.

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            Almost certainly being under the terms of the original loan where £18m had been on demand with the balance on notice. This is most likely to protect MA in the event of a new owner or new borrowing to avoid him being relegated in the order of priority for lending and pretty standard stuff.

            The point is MA ( or MASH or separate entity) provided the club with an additional £12m interest free.

          • Guest 2

            Made the loan last December. Paid himself the lion share – at a time you say the club needed money, he decided he needed it more.
            Are you now suggesting he was already looking at selling before last Xmas, or a new investor coming in, despite his public words (on Sky) against that the summer previously?
            Thanks for confirming what a lying greedy [email protected] he is despite your confused defence of him.

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            Paid himself the lion share? you’re looking for something that isn’t there. If I have an £180 overdraft facility and ask the bank for £300 overdraft, I have an additional £120 to play with. I don’t then say to the bank that they’ve been greedy.

            In this case, the club needed an additional £12m to get through the year. Mike was already out for £18m to he upped it to £30m being £18m + £12m.

            To put that £12m in perspective, that money could have paid for Brighton’s and Huddersfield’s entire transfer dealing from last season 3 times over and still had change.

          • Guest 2

            How can you put 12 mil into the ‘perspective’ of transfers when none of it was used for any!
            So, 129 mil of loans minus 18 mil repaid to himself = 111 million. Add back another 12 million the club got. Do NUFC now only have loans amounting to 123 million?

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            No, you know that’s not the case. do two sums:

            £129m + £12m =

            or

            £129m – £18m + £30m =

            clue, the answer is not £123m

          • Guest 2

            There you go. Accounting, Ashley style.
            Repay your own loan from your own money then increase the amount owed by doing so.
            Seriously, you should be ashamed for defending this parasite while suggesting how good he is for the club.

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            It’s just a paper trail, I’ve tried to put it as simply as I can.

            OK, imagine, I lent you £18m and the piece of paper that you signed says you have to repay it by tomorrow. You have come to me as said Bobbi I’m sorry, I can’t repay, in fact I need another £12m. I’m a nice guy, I’ve put our differences to one side and said OK, sign this loan paper to say you will owe me £30m, that replaces the original paperwork and here’s £12m. Does that sound like I’m the parasite? You have £12m more in your pocket, I have £12m less. you promise to pay me £30m at some point in the future.

            It’s simple. Very,very simple.

          • Guest 2

            Bobbi, take a hike. Are you actually convincing yourself?

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            Just think about what yo are saying for a minute, you surely must understand, it’s basic maths.

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            I’m not suggesting a new investor in December, I’m saying the original interest free loans made to fix the balance sheet were written in a way to ensure he didn’t fall down the list of creditors should new borrowing be introduced.

            I think you are playing at being ignorant here, we’ve discussed the finances on here enough for you to understand how loans appear on a balance sheet.

          • Guest 2

            Matey, you insinuated he positioned himself for a new owner or investor.
            If he was doing that last December (when he provided the additional funds) then it confirms what a two faced lying git he is and how redundant your glorification of him is.
            Not me who is being ignorant.

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            He’s not changed that position, just lent £12m more.

            When you are old enough, you may buy a house. Your lender will give you £150k to go and buy it by way of a mortgage secured on the property you buy. A few years later, you find there are a few maintenance issues with the house and you need £10k but need to borrow the money and you have gone to another lender to borrow that £10k and that lender wants to secure the loan on the house. The paperwork you signed with the first lender would have been written so that they have first dibs on the house should anything go wrong with the payments, it will also be written so that a subsequent lender will be 2nd in the queue. Everyone accepts that, you get your £10k and the house is OK.

            An alternative with your house scenario is you go back to your original lender and they offer to lend you the £10k but suggest you replace the original loan with a new one. Security will be drawn up to make sure they get first dibs on the house etc. The new loan was £160k, £150k of this repays the original loan, you owe £160k and have £10k to spend on repairs and all is OK.

            In both scenarios, you have bought a house and have £10k to spend doing it up, you are happy. In both cases the first lender has first dibs on the property and always will. in the first scenario, the 2nd lender was never going to take the house without the first lender knowing.

            At NUFC, MA lent the money to the club, there is no indication that he was about to sell to an investor, he simply ensured that he’s protected should another lender come along.

          • Guest 2

            How many variations and nonsense scenarios do you wish to come up with?
            No one else ‘loaned’ the club money. Only fatso. Indeed, for his supporters like you who crow about how much debt he allegedly saved us from – my my, it sure continues to grow under his 100% ownership. And it was actually 33 million not 30. Wonder where the other 3 is?
            But of course despite all your nonsense, you completely fail to state the obvious – the huge amount of corporation tax he saves MASH by continuing with and increasing these loans.
            AND if he hasn’t changed his position (since last December), then as you insinuated, he already knew he was looking for a new owner or investor AT THAT TIME. Not what he went on live tv to say only months earlier. But you just keep avoiding that.

          • East Durham Mag

            I see your point but would rather he sold the club lock stock and barrel.

          • East Durham Mag

            I see your point but would rather he sold the club lock stock and barrel. He’s also killed all the other aspects of the club stone dead. Ambitions, atmosphere and hope.

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            I think the value in football clubs now mean that it’s very difficult for a single wealthy person to own a football club. I suppose that is sort of what MA said in his interview.

            The best we can hope for is the 49% partner. There is an argument as to how much that should be, let’s say £185m and then a loan of £129m, the higher end says £250m for the shares and £129m loan.

            I’d worry about a sale outright. If he sells to a consortium who are in the style of the Glazers, there is every chance that the consortium comes in, buys the shares from MA, borrows the money in the name of the club to pay off not only the MA loan of £129 but also pay them back as a leveraged arrangement. No new money and an external finance supplier and owners that don’t own the risk.

            If someone ‘only’ takes 49%, they will have to match MA’s money. For all his ills, MA is not going to break the business because he owns all the risk.

          • Guest 2

            And even more about him being a Spurs supporter.

      • Guest 2

        That’s now ranks as the No1 most ridiculous thing you have claimed.

        • Kneebotherm8

          And he has come out with some corkers,hasn’t he?An ostrich springs to mind when I think of fleckman.

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            read the article, it’s in the Mag, it must be true. TBPH, it’s far more plausible than most Mag articles.

          • Guest 2

            He’s the gift that keeps on giving.

  • TheNutJob

    early stories about Fatso are on the net if you have the time to trawl through them
    one is a comment about Jabba made by one of his school friends.
    Mike was the best marbles player at school, he won all the marbles the boy’s had then sold them back to them
    😂😂😂😂

    • Oooh bobbi fleckman

      It would be great if he could get nufc to operate like that. It sounds like the basis of Chelsea’s recruitment and loan policy

    • Leazes Ender

      He fancied Ulrika Johnson who attended the same School apparently, and nobody liked him then either.

  • Andy Mac

    What does deja vu mean ?

    • Paul Patterson

      What was your question?

    • Dom Morgan

      I’m sure you asked that last week.

  • Paul Patterson

    Whoever goes into a meeting to fight the players corner (Rafa included) I’d bet they’ll be gone by the end of the season.

    • Leazes Ender

      I hope it Elliot and Colback.

      • Paul Patterson

        Send Riviere in . .

        • Geordiegiants

          Rivière with Mitro as his back up.

    • Steve Smith

      Hopefully it’s Colback, Riviere, Lazaar etc then!

  • Kneebotherm8

    Mike Ashley Groundhog Day,it’s a recurring nightmare with him.

  • Jimblag23

    Oh I get it now, they’ll start playing well when the bonuses are set up.

    Seriously though, we’re a joke.

    • Peaky Magpie

      Every day something new is cropping up,sad to saybut the club is in a bigger mess than I previously thought.

      • Guest 2

        Have you been hiding in a cupboard for the entire Ashley decade?

        • Peaky Magpie

          Not quite but does the highest village in England,in The Peak District,in the middle of nowhere count ? I’m the only Geordie in the village or indeed for miles around.

          • Guest 2

            Well, if you get your news via carrier pigeon, let me inform you that today is no different from any other day under the fat one.

  • Ram Kishore

    Maybe its just someone, trying to write rubbish just to get webclicks/ views.. I do believe the club didn’t have any relegation clause that reduced their wages..I don’t see the need for bonus coming up now especially when there is a paucity of funds for transfers.

  • Blackburn1066

    Mike Ashley is a shop keeper open all hours and will run NUFC just the same way till he puts us back down.