After a week of mounting expectation that Jacob Murphy was set to sign for Newcastle, Thursday night/Friday morning has brought a reality check.

Monday saw widespread reports that Newcastle had offered £8m for the Norwich midfielder but it was rejected.

Tuesday then brought news that Rafa Benitez had insisted Newcastle up their bid to finally land a third signing of the summer.

Things escalated on Thursday morning with Sky Sports and various other media all reporting that Murphy’s representatives were talking to both Newcastle and Norwich, in order to help ease a deal through.

However, by Thursday night/Friday morning the situation appears to have got to this impasse..

Whilst the player himself, a lifelong Newcastle fan with Geordie roots, wants to make the move happen, the two clubs are still wide apart on a transfer fee.

The Northern Echo say that sources close to the player have told them that Jacob Murphy is prepared to put in a transfer request to help push the deal but that still doesn’t solve the issue of the transfer fee.

The consensus amongst the north east press is that Newcastle have made clear that they are prepared to go up to £10m but aren’t willing to go higher, whilst Norwich want £16m – though some media claim they may accept £12m as their very lowest acceptable bid.

It is all conjecture/speculation but it does seem clear that the two clubs are definitely not able to agree a price as it stands.

Interestingly, The Chronicle talk of Norwich ‘digging their heels in’ on the price they want, rather than Newcastle ‘digging their heels in’ on not being prepared to pay the asking price. Almost as though Norwich are cheating, or not playing fair.

It is pointless going on about clubs wanting ‘crazy prices’ these days, just like anything else, things are worth what somebody else is prepared to pay.

It is only 12 months since Newcastle picked up £55m for Sissoko and Wijnaldum

Also a year ago, Newcastle picked Watford’s pocket for a price in the same ballpark as the £10m NUFC are allegedly sticking at for Jacob Murphy.

If Rafa Benitez/Newcastle do honestly see him as a 22 year old Premier League player then what is his true worth in today’s market? I would suggest definitely more than £10m.

The bottom line is that you can’t sell your house at 2017 prices and then expect to buy one at 2007 price levels, that wouldn’t be fair…

Somewhere along the line Newcastle are going to have to accept that to be able to compete on the pitch, you have to do the same off it. Failure to do the latter will simply ensure a struggle on the field.

Elsewhere, Joe Hart is now set to sign on loan at West Ham, with reports claiming that the Hammers have succeeded because they are willing to pay 50% of the goalkeeper’s wages and Newcastle were only prepared to pay 25% of them.

Like all media reports you have to treat them with some scepticism but the bottom line is that clearly Newcastle are failing to bring in players for some reason(s) and top of the list is definitely money.

Tonight Newcastle play their first friendly four weeks ahead of the new season and then fly off on Sunday for a pre-season training camp in Ireland.

Something needs to happen soon otherwise Newcastle’s Championship team will be expected to be taking on the Premier League with minimal help.



  • anyobrien

    He wants to come and his agent will make it happen for his cut.
    Keep calm and carry on…ktf

  • jack

    Just pay the going rate Ashley

  • Waxi

    Penny pinchin yet again. We started at 8 million Norwich at 16 Million we go up 2 and expect them to go down 6 is just not going to happen is it. Tell chumley the meeting number is 12 and get it done ffs. We need to move with the times it is not the 90’s prices have gone up.

  • Dave Mitchison

    The cynic in me says that Ashley and his cronies have a plan to frustrate RAFA (now that he has done a job buy getting NUFC back to the premier gravy train) to the point where he walks then in comes a yes man and the circus continues.

    • Kneebotherm8

      Absolutely possible,and haven’t we seen this situation before with Ashley who is no respecter of footballing reputations. Keegan’s treatment was a disgrace and it’s looking like Rafa is getting something similar.

      • Porciestreet

        And look at what he did to Hoots…!

    • Porciestreet

      Said that all along.

    • HarryHype59

      I have thought the same myself as each week passes without making the essential improvements needed to avoid another relegation. Ashley’s never sees the longer term picture at this club, and would gladly appoint a puppet on budget wages to save money short term.

  • Canarylad

    Why shouldn’t Norwich dig their heels in, it isn’t as if they put Murphy up for sale, Newcastle came to them to buy. , Pay the price or get out of the way. It is Newcastle who should heed the “Take it or Leave” notion
    It is funny that all the years the lad has been at Norwich, we never heard one single thing about him being Newcastle fan, in fact the opposite he only wanted to play for Norwich

    • Kneebotherm8

      Why would the lad mention who he supports when playing for Norwich? Of all the players at NUFC,I can’t think of many,if any,players who I know which team they actually support. The point you’re making on that issue is pretty much pointless.

    • Martin

      Four years ago on twitter during a Newcastle Sunderland game he wrote about us with the hashtag #myteam. So there is one single thing for you.

    • Damon Horner

      It’s reporting on what is being said in media outlets, most Newcastle fans are urging club to up their bid, nobody is really getting at Norwich at all

  • Desree

    He isn’t that good. But we did pay 12m for townsend

  • Toonbadger

    I`m popping down to S****s D****T today for a new Toon Shirt but I`m not gonna pay the asking price. I`ll make an offer of £15 and see if the Fat shopkeeper will do a deal. Ha ha I fekkin doubt it

  • DerbyCanary

    “The bottom line is that you can’t sell your house at 2017 prices and then expect to buy one at 2007 price levels, that wouldn’t be fair” – the most telling line here,.

    In Nov 2016 we offered a new four and a half year contract to JM who signed it, this gave us insurance as there were whispers of interest from prem clubs. That now means we can be stubborn.

    We don’t want to sell, the offer was not welcomed, so of course we want suitable remuneration to buy a replacement (ignoring his brother IS already teh replacement on a long contract!) – HOWEVER many years ago Dean Ashton agreed to waive bonuses he was owed to enable a transfer to West Ham happen that may come about here.

    • Kneebotherm8

      Yeah, this isn’t a problem only for Norwich,we’ve had plenty of contracted players forcing moves,as have 99% of clubs. The contracts aren’t worth the paper they’re written on.

      • MichaelMaximusMoose

        It seems the contacts worth more than £10m

        • DerbyCanary

          This is what i meant – yes he’s leaving. Probably to you. But the contract is a millstone to him as it’s length puts us in a position to wait for the offer we deem acceptable.

          Acceptable *MAY* mean that he puts in a transfer request, so loses out on £x in payments due. As such we accept a lower fee as we have saved on payments out. It’s wooden dollars as you’d prob have to pay it to him as a signing on fee anyway!

  • Wor Monga

    Take a reality check on what you’re saying here regarding the prices being asked for players Jackie…Sissoko, Wijnaldum and Janmaat were all PL players with full International creditation (2 of them after playing in the latter stages of a World Cup)…Murphy doesn’t have this, and the transition from U21 level to full international status doesn’t always happen…

    …They’re asking too much for a good player…but who is yet totally unproven against PL defenders!!!

    • DerbyCanary

      Then don’t pay it and we’ll keep our player!

      • Wor Monga

        Pushing to leave, and facing more time in the Championship with a small country club in the sticks…he’ll go…asap!!!

        • DerbyCanary

          We are a smaller club, we are (like you) in the sticks. We do have him on a 4 year contract however.

          See my point below – no point in fans mud slinging at each other

          • Kneebotherm8

            At the end of the day your player probably won’t end up at Newcastle because our tight wad of an owner won’t pay a decent price, but the lad will end up at a more ambitious club than us,like Palace.

          • DerbyCanary

            dear god, palace as a “more ambitious club” – we have our problems but still…… TBH I’d not be surprised if he joined Redmond at Soton

          • Wor Monga

            Nah they’re sinking…they’ve had their time in the sun, like your lot…we’ll go to £12m and bring the lad in!!!

          • DerbyCanary

            I’d expect that too – 12m, most up front has already been discussed, and some sell on fees/performance clauses will probably do it (easier if fans just do it between ourselves – with their money !!)

          • Kneebotherm8

            Yeah it would seem Palace,Southampton,Bournemouth and the likes are more ambitious than us.

          • Porciestreet

            Please, “Croydon Boys Club” ambitious, HaHa Ha. Desperate more like.

          • Kneebotherm8

            They’re more ambitious than us,although that’s very easily done. If you’re saying it’s more desperation than ambition,then I’d like to see us become more desperate Dan.

      • Porciestreet

        You may well my son.

    • Kneebotherm8

      I agree,the toon should offer £10 million with add ons,if he’s a success in the PL.

  • MichaelMaximusMoose

    the same happened with Ali & Dier Nufc wouldn’t pay the fee Tottenham did
    am I surprised, not for a second

  • East Durham Mag

    Its the same M.O. buy cheap if they do well sell for a big wedge to go into Fattys wallet. Nothing has changed with Ashley and never will. No wonder Rangers fans were ecstatic when he parted company with them. We aren’t that lucky.

  • Toon fan

    Writing articles on the back of media speculation is silly.

    • anyobrien

      correct

  • Lord

    Will Jacob Murphy be to Rafa what James Milner was to Keegan, I wonder?

    • Soldier

      he may well be, the whole window stinks of undermining Rafa

  • Soldier

    Next time Mr Benitez gets assurances off the owner he needs to get it in writing
    Ashley is currently in his 3rd court case for broken promises

    • Kneebotherm8

      Verbal promises off Ashley are sh!t, the mans a devious fat [email protected]

      • Porciestreet

        No He’s not…..He’s a Fat lieing b45tard.

    • Mark Potter

      What broken promises? Rafa decided that his new policy for recruitment would include a much greater emphasis on loans. Three players identified by Rafa for loan deals, none of them signed. Where did Ashley get involved in these deals? Tammy, can’t be trusted within 250 miles of the Bigg Market, Abraham was personally contacted by Rafa, and Rafa was positive he would sign. Loftus-Cheek identified by Rafa, but not willing to move house out of London. The lad from Liverpool identified by Rafa, but apparently Klopp wants him to play for Boro. This points at bad scouting, not finding out whether these players and their clubs would even be interested in Newcastle. There is no suggestion that any of this was over money. None.

      Florian Lejeune’s deal was delayed because Rafa wanted to pay the fee in instalments. He had a release clause, Eibar felt that the release was only triggered if the full amount was paid up front. We know that the club (Charnley etc) preferred always to pay the full amount over many seasons, and this was another result of giving Rafa control over transfer policy. For all we know, they would have still been haggling now, if Charnley or Ashley hadn’t just said give Eibar the full amount.

      The fact is, we don’t know whether it is Rafa (in charge of all player recruitment) who is dragging his feet over the “crazy” demands of other clubs, or it is the MD (who signs the cheques). Anyone who claims they do know are talking BS.

    • Porciestreet

      Like I said…..Fat Lieing b45tard.

  • HarryHype59

    Ashley “baulks” at the absurd fees for players but is happy to accept the inflated Sky TV money driving those fees upwards.

    • Jezza

      Ashley baulks at the idea of spending any money in the transfer market when he can be pocketing the lot to add to the profits he is constantly bleeding out of the club. If we’re talking absurd fees what about the £30 million Ashley got for Sissoko.

  • Jimblag23

    This is a player I don’t know, so can’t really comment.
    But if Rafa wants him and we’re willing to pay £10m, surely we can push the boat out for another couple of million and get the player the manager wants.

    But that would be too simple and sensible for NUFC I guess.

    • mactoon

      “Pushing the boat out for another couple of million” is a phrase you could apply to EVERY transfer window since Ashley bought the club. What a mess

      • Mark Potter

        And if we had generously provided every selling club with a couple of million extra for every player bought in that period how much would that amount to? Should we have offered more for Riviere, Obertan and De Jong? Tell me whether you made exactly the same point when any of those deals were delayed as the clubs agreed terms.

        • TheFatController

          They are right, you should panic and pay what a club asks and throw any budget/valuation process out the window.

          Like Liverpool flashing the Torres 70% of £50m for Carroll. Buy in haste, repent at leisure til you sell him on for £17m having paid his wages whilst sat in the treatment room for a few years.

          Just buy who the manager asks for. Always works….

          £20m should get Murphy. Come on Charnley, simple.

          • HarryHype59

            If this club is in the bottom three, in late August due to lack of a proactive recruitment policy, you will then see panic buying.

          • Porciestreet

            And the sheep will still be grazing peacefully at St James’s.

          • Porciestreet

            Sadly my friend, you are apealing to someone that hasn’t got a clue, that deals with someone who, by his own volition, hasn’t got a clue what the first party is talking about.
            Raffa, having been given the money, or so we are led to believe, should, be able to put his deals together as he sees fit. But, is not allowed to it seems. So , one is led to believe that Nikey Mikey has lied yet again and is in fact still holding the strings..Fat lieing B45tard.

        • HarryHype59

          Surely, they were cheap options who have proved totally unsuitable. In cost to benefit terms they have been very expensive. All the players you mention have almost zero sell on values and are on comparatively high wages on long contracts.

          Transfer fees are rising due to the new TV deal. It is like buying a house in a rising market. If this team isn’t improved dramatically, relegation is a certainty. The club will be picking up 41m parachute money next season instead of 110m TV cash.

      • TheFatController

        I would think conversations go like this ;-

        -£15m for Murphy Rafa?
        No, I won’t pay that
        – I can hardball for £12m like we did for Ritchie ?
        I think I’d only pay £10m, if not go for XYZ instead, I don’t want to over pay as I have other targets budgeted for that are important
        – yes, striker target A is still asking £20m
        I budgeted £15m, this market is crazy.
        – striker target B can be done for £15m?
        No, let’s wait to see if target A fee comes down – target B definitely wants to join, but I’d prefer A obviously

        You can only control bids when working to a budget, it’s not a case of having a target and spending more than you want to – something has to give a result …

        • HarryHype59

          If player XYZ is as bad as the other punts this club us truly friar tucked. The buy cheap buy twice lesson obviously hasn’t been learned.

  • Thefootballerwhocouldfly

    Our next signing will be…. our old manager “Parsnip Pardew’!

    • MichaelMaximusMoose

      Gollum Moyes, ha ha

  • goggsy

    Bye bye Rafa! Hello championship! Nice seeing you again premier league! Cough up you bumbling drunk baphoon!

  • Desree

    Rafa won’t leave. If he resigns he walks away from 5m a year. Rafa must have negotiated his contract at the pub, after 10 pints and chasers. Ashley threw up in the fire place as he promised a 70m war chest?

    • Soldier

      West Ham will pay him that & most likely give him a £100m to spend

  • MichaelMaximusMoose

    Leazes must be up at sports direct getting the new kit

  • TheFatController

    If we sign him, we’ll moan he’s a championship player, if we don’t sign him he’ll be the player we should have met the £15m asking price for, and this moan.

    Maybe some of these are just red herrings to distract from real targets? Wow, do clubs really do that? he asked as Man Utd let the press talk about the Morata deal for a month and then signed lukaku to the surprise of…the press!

    Aren’t Man utd cheeky not letting us all in on that one …?

    • Wor Monga

      You’re spot on there…there’s more panic merchants on this site than any other one, and the Mag feeds them daily hand-outs… non-stop!!!

      • TheFatController

        In fairness they are right, paying over the odds and huge wages gets you success. Leeds were amazing …. oh!

        Now they’ll say ‘ but we all have loads of money so spend it’. That’s exactly what Norwich are counting on, sadly that’s what they don’t seem to understand ….

        • Mark Potter

          And this article is in direct contradiction of all the others out there this morning. They dismiss entirely the fact that the player is willing to put in a transfer request. Norwich can’t say, they are OK if there is no deal agreed, and pretend that the player will remain in their squad and happily play for them next season, if he formally requests a transfer.
          The link to Sissoko and Wijnaldum’s fees are ridiculous. They were established senior internationals who already proved they could play at the top of their own national leagues, and then in the Prem. Murphy hasn’t.

  • Steve Pearce

    Jabba The Hut must have drunk all the transfer money and drowned hundreds in lakes of vomit….

  • Mrkgw

    This penny pinching regime is beyond a joke now.

    Ashley & Charnley out.

  • Sid James

    What a Carry On

  • Cuh736

    Magreaders anonymous seems much needed tbh.

  • Paul Patterson

    For the sake of £2-4m? Really? Just pay the bloody thing..

  • Peaco

    Irrespective of whether we make any signings or not, to suggest that “crazy prices” is justification is risible. Most would surely agree that £35m for Carroll and a similar fee for Sissoko is “crazy”. Sadly the parasitic buffoon running the club wants his cake and by appearances has eaten it several times over. Happily one day he will shuffle off this mortal coil and if reports of his drinking are not exaggerated, it may be sooner rather than later.

    • Porciestreet

      Amen to that.

  • Stephen

    He will end up at one of the BIGGER Premiere League Clubs
    Watford, Bournemouth or Huddersfield

    • Mrkgw

      Quite possibly. Our stock has fallen considerably during the Ashley era and the club has lost any of its former prestige. Problem is that it was allowed to happen and the club should never have been sold in such a manner.

  • Rich Lawson

    Media says he has already turned down Palace ? How much did they offer for him ? Sadly if he sticks a written transfer request in Norwich probably wont want to keep an unsettled player and some compromise on the fee can be reached ?

    • Oooh bobbi fleckman

      Palace’s offer was less than ours!

      • Rich Lawson

        Just curious cos it says the player turned it down rather than the club,which suggests their bid was acceptable ?

        • Oooh bobbi fleckman

          I think there is an element of cutting and pasting other articles here. It looks to me as an agent flushing out interest and Norwich (rightly) trying to get the most money.

  • HarryHype59

    Our odious owner “baulks” at rising fees, but is happy to take the inflated TV money driving prices up. The Rafalution has stalled as the corpulent one has reverted to type and doesn’t want to pay the going rate. Until he leaves our club we are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.

    • Porciestreet

      The B45t4rd is still alive…..thats the problem…!

  • Stephen

    If Kyle Warker is worth 54mil.
    We may as well start watching Rugby or Tennis or even Crown Green Bowls.
    Come on please. this is a wind up.
    A decent footballer not a great one🤑

  • HarryHype59

    I cannot understand how the Ashley apologists are still in denial regarding the awful way he runs this club. His pathetic penny pinching will result in Rafa leaving and yet another relegation.

    • Oooh bobbi fleckman

      I’d love to sell you a used car.

      • HarryHype59

        The penny still hasn’t dropped has it? Two relegations, the fourth highest debt levels in the EPK and 70m+ wasted on a bench full of flops, you refuse to accept reality.

        Using the car analogy, rather than buy a decent second hand car for 10k Fatman has a series of cheap MOT failed non runners parked outside SJP that he picked up from EBay in an attempt to play the system.

        No doubt he thinks he can pick up another bargain from the weaker leagues in Europe. Problem is they will end up on the NUFC scrap heap of bargain basement punts who weren’t good enough.

        • Porciestreet

          Who trusts Any seccond hand dealer anyway.

        • Oooh bobbi fleckman

          The point being is the car does not get better if it’s £10k or £3k, the seller is just better off.

          £10k for a 2nd hand car? I’m seriously going to seek you out when I sell mine.

          • HarryHype59

            There is a correlation between the price one pays for a car its its quality and reliability. The same argument generally holds for footballers. 10k is a perfectly acceptable price for a quality car under five years old.

            The fee quoted is high but simply reflects market values.

      • HarryHype59

        Bobbi doesn’t understand the concept of cost to benefit ratios. The bargain basement punts are actually hideously expensive. Riviere has cost us 6m a goal to date excluding wages.

        • Oooh bobbi fleckman

          Harry, I’m quite aware that buying rubbish will not get us anywhere. However, Jacob Murphy does not become a better player if we spend £14m on him instead of £8m. Riviere would not be a better player had we doubled his transfer fee, we’d just have had less left over to spend elsewhere.

    • HarryHype59

      You don’t get cost to benefit ratios do you!

  • Rev

    We are not signing anyone on an inflated fee … so we are not signing anyone. We will know by January whether keeping our powder dry has paid off and whether the squad is good enough. All everyone can do is get behind the team for every game. Nobody is forced to turn up if they bought a season ticket and feel conned. Watch it on Sky and dont renew the ticket. Nothing is goong to change when there 54000 turning up every week no matter what happens on the pitch. Ashley isnt going to. change thats pretty obvious so its down to the people who go every week. If you want Ashley out dont pay for him to stay

  • Paul Busby

    This article makes it sound worse than it probably is. Not to defend the rather ridiculous approach of penny pinching, especially after just spending a season in the championship once due to years of compounded poor transfers, but I’m reading elsewhere that the deal is still making progress. 10m being the base price with add-ons to bring the total closer to the asking price, still under negotiation.
    @Caulkinthetimes on twitter for the source. Obviously take with a a pinch of salt, but the same can always be said of the Mag.

  • Leicester Mag

    Every article of this nature gets dismissed by a number on here as negative tittle tattle. The Mag having a whinge. Yes a single article can be dismissed same is true of for example climate change a sunny day down at Shields doesn’t mean in itself the world faces a catastrophe. Sticking with the same analogy at some point the data becomes overwhelming and only a blind fool ignores the evidence. The inconvenient truth for some on here is that the evidence of Ashley’s incompetence and outright callous disrespect for fans / tradition and the city itself is in plain sight and yet still it is ignored. He has taken a top 6 club and turned us into a pantomime where we the fans are to many others, the punchline. His arrogance and intransigence will see no issue with the undermining of Rafa. He’s top dog and no one can and will tell him anything especially as the club is run as little more than an advert for his business.

    Keep pretending all is well, it might feel better to do so but one day you know it will go wrong and you know why – Ashley- no other reason

    • Porciestreet

      Ashley Out…..He breathes far to much.

    • Oooh bobbi fleckman

      Keep repeating nonsense until you believe it yourself, that’s the Mag’s way.

      The mag’s authors actually believed they were better off in a Bernie.

      • Leicester Mag

        Ok in the parallel world where Ashley is a good owner, pixies run amok and the Earth is flat preytell you can perhaps articulate the reasons why the Mag is wrong.

        • Oooh bobbi fleckman

          Generally or this particular article?

        • HarryHype59

          Bobbi pretends he has superior insight into the workings of SJP. I had hoped the second relegation would have made him accept reality. Maybe a third finally will.

          • Leicester Mag

            You are assuming he’s a fan and not a stooge.

      • HarryHype59

        You constantly claim Ashley is a good owner despite the overwhelming fact based evidence that contradicts this. You are a master of repeating nonsense. Perhaps a third relegation may get the penny to finally drop!

        • Oooh bobbi fleckman

          I’m not saying Ashley is the perfect owner but this forum constantly encourages authors and posters to say nonsense and get angry about it. Leicester Mag us at it here, MA apparently turned a top 6 side into a pantomime yet reality is we finished 14th the year before MA took over and with the exception of 3 good seasons under Bobby, we were not a top 6 side for 10years before MA.

          • HarryHype59

            What nonsense? NUFC were an established EPL side when Ashley took over having been promoted in the 92/93 season. The club had fourteen seasons in the top flight when he bought us . Since he took over there have been two relegations and another one a real possibility unless he backs Rafa.

            His short term profit obsession at the expense of long term growth is the main reason why I think he is a terrible owner. He has never had a strategic long term plan for the club. The TV money should have funded a new golden era but has been squandered due to mismanagement.

    • Toon

      A top 6 club? except from sporadic spells under Keegan and Robson Newcastle have never been a top 6 club in pretty much the entire history. The last spell we had was a small consistent period under Robson when Shepherd sacked him, mainly due to the arrogance of some fans who wanted him out for finishing 5th, yes 5th. These are probably the same fans who write and comment on The Mag, constantly whining about every small thing the club do.

      If you actually think that 99% of fans don’t recognise what Ashley is then you are very naïve; the gripe most people have with this site (and if you check Twitter etc you will see its a lot) is the constant bitching and moaning about all small details of the club, constantly, 6/7 articles a day all about the same the thing. This feeds the usual moaning suspects on here who spend their time repeating the moans over and over again repeating the misplaced arrogance of this embarrassing fan website.

      NUFC have pretty much always been a pantomime of a club, especially under Shepherd who some fans think was some kind of hero for spending millions on complete rubbish and appointing the likes of Souness, Roeder, Gullit etc, remember all Geordie woman are dogs?!

      I look forward to the day Ashley goes but until then we are stuck, I don’;t see The Mag ever organising anything to stand up against him? just bitching and whinging like an immature small child. I get very confused about fans who have this weird idea we were this huge successful club before Ashley, we weren’t, we were the same club being mismanaged by a bloke who took as much as he could and ran the club into debt through mismanagement

      • Leicester Mag

        So the crux of your argument being we’ve always been a basket case and that Ashley is no worse so accept it? Great I’ll open the champagne and celebrate now. How naive of me not to see this.

        This isn’t an issue of who’s worse the fact is the club is ran in a way that we can discount ever harbouring any allusion of even trying to compete.

        • Wor Monga

          How can you do any other than accept Ashley as the owner…can you buy him out?…do you know anyone who can, and is ready to come up with the asking price?… or do you just think that (the Mag) telling us every morning that you don’t want him as owner will change how it is?…

          …he doesn’t take any notice, man…he doesn’t give a toss…and we already know exactly what Ashley is like…along with every man and his dog in this country, if not
          the world!!!

          • Leicester Mag

            I take your point to an extent but Liverpool fans and the Spirit of Shankly group got organised and did get rid of Gillette and Hicks. If we want to criticise the Mag it is maybe that with the standing it has it could have chosen a similar path

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            The Spirit of Shankley did nothing, the spirit of RBS forcing through a sale to protect its lending got rid of Gillette & Hicks, Ashley should have waited for Barclays to do the same.

      • Wor Monga

        Well said…the club staggered along for many, many years relying only on the fantastic support to keep it healthy, but it had just about hit the rocks when Hall saved it, and the next few years of his leadership are what a lot of the internet generation on here now believe had been the usual practice…it was again heading
        south when we were extremely fortunate to have Sir Bob resurrect it until, as you say, he was hounded out…Shepherd sold out to the only nugget who would pay his asking price and the rest unfortunately (for us), is history…

        …Yes we need certain players, and there’s still time to bring them in, but there is also the right attitude, spirit and ability across the coaching and players at the club now to do more than just survive…other less equipped clubs have come up and done that, and so there’s no reason for panic stations yet!!!

  • glassjawsh-got-banned

    Yes, he’s run the club into the ground, but the mental gymnastics it takes for some supporters to get from “The pieman is doing a poor job at making decisions on what to do with our city’s favorite leisure activity” to “I hope Mike Ashley literally dies today!” says a lot more about the fools uttering those sort of invectives than it does about Newcastle’s bufoonish leadership.

  • Toon

    “The bottom line is that you can’t sell your house at 2017 prices and then expect to buy one at 2007 price levels, that wouldn’t be fair…” oh dear, sad thing is I bet she was up all night trying to structure this rubbish!

    • HarryHype59

      It is a valid analogy! The TV money has increased over 40% hence the rise in player prices. Too many of our fans don’t grasp the laws of supply and demand.

      • Damon Horner

        You’re right. Basic fact is if a club thinks another has the money to spend they will do what they can to extract as much as possible. That’s just business.

        If Man Utd expressed an interest in Murphy the price would suddenly be north of £20mil.

        I think it’s that general footballing business practice Ashley detests and it does influence our negotiations in my view. It’s about who is the controlling party in the negotiation for him in my view.

  • Lizfoley AkaEsther

    £17.5m and will take his brother as well

  • Cuh736

    The easy way out is to blame Ashley isn’t it? Norwich aren’t being reasonable. It’s like how we got 30 for sissoko last year.

    Already spent about £15m this window, on Atsu and Lejeune. We still want a CF and probably a CAM, which would without a doubt cost us a lot. Buying this kid for another 15m leaves us with £40m (assuming rafa did get 70m for transfers). Thats not enough to get a CF and a CAM. Also, accepting such an overpriced bid will set the tone with the clubs we do business with subsequently. They wont be selling cheap to us after seeing Norwich rip us off like this.

    Murphy is worth £5m at most

    • Wor Monga

      You’re dead right…the only thing I’d disagree with is the valuation of £5m…I’d put him in the same bracket as Atsu at £6m…same qualities, and PL experience…

      …but it just depends on how desperate we are for a quick deal!!!

      • Leazes Ender

        Quick deal, we’ve now entered the twilight zone!

      • Cuh736

        True. Desperate times then

      • Mark Potter

        He might be the same bracket in pure football terms, but Murphy is British. He won’t disappear for weeks to ACON (though there isn’t one this season, I think) and he helps fulfill our need for home grown players in the squad. This automatically puts a premium on his transfer value. So £10-12m might not be unreasonable.

        This will get even worse soon. Brexit will impact the price of British players even more, because we won’t be able to buy players like Lejeune, he’s not an international and wouldn’t get a work permit. We’ll be paying £20m for a Mike Williamson like player.

    • DerbyCanary

      Not being reasonable?
      1) he is our player on a long contract
      2) we didn’t invite the offer
      3) since when is declining a lowball offer unreasonable?

      • Oooh bobbi fleckman

        It’s not unreasonable to decline an offer nor is it unreasonable to make an offer.hes a player with potential and we’ve just bought Atsu with similar pedigree which is why nufc think £8m is right.

        • DerbyCanary

          And why NCFC said no. As unlike atsu he has a long contract and is wanted at his current club.

          Status is not the only factor.

        • HarryHype59

          Atsu hardly played last season. Murphy did very well last season for Norwich, hence the higher fee.

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            He played 32 times last season, a season that included a month at the ACN, that’s more than Alan Shearer averaged per season. Murphy did well last season, that’s why we’re interested.

          • Mark Potter

            Are you sure Shearer only started an average of less than 32 games per season? You can’t count, surely seasons where he was seriously injured and missed more than half the games, like when he did his knee. The other important fact is I remember him being on the bench and coming on late in the game only a few times, if he was fit he always started. Atsu had about half his appearances last year as a sub, I think. While Murphy was a regular starter for a Norwich.

          • Oooh bobbi fleckman

            Of course, Shearer’s missed games were through injury. I’m just making the point that Atsu played in a good number of games despite being over a month at African Cup of Nations. The comparison with Shearer was to illustrate that even the first name on the team sheet for 10 years averaged a similar number of games.

            We’re at the stage of sweetening the pot for Norwich, I respect Norwich want the best deal for them, we need the best deal for ourselves.

            I’d also like Norwich to go up so would not be averse to lending someone to help that (although they like to develop their own), Adam Armstrong could excel there.

    • HarryHype59

      The club will pick up a guaranteed 100m even for finishing last. I don’t know why the owner doesn’t give Rafa a 30m overdraft to bring in 90m worth of players over three years. This would allow Rafa to compete in the market and help the club avoid relegation next year. Ashley can then pay him self back when the club gets the full TV deal money.

  • Steve Pearce

    So what happened to the “buy in” or “sale” of our club?

    We would have been free of the chunk of cockney shyte and his useless crew and able to afford any player we wanted. I just hope the fat Chris Brunt drinks himself to death in the next couple of days…

    • glassjawsh-got-banned

      “My sports team isn’t as good as I want it to be. People should die!!”

      idiot

      • Harry Gibson

        It’s not quite as simple as that is it?
        He has purposefully done everything in his power over the last eight years to p’ss off every single Newcastle fan possible, and bring misery to the Geordie nation whilst robbing our fans. He is a disgusting individual that should suffer as much as he has made our nation suffer. Let’s hope it’s slowly and painfully.

  • Leazes Ender

    Still no honesty from Lee Ryder, but bin-dipping is in his genes.

  • HarryHype59

    The issue here isn’t really about what Murphy is actually worth. It is about the club living in the past regarding how much they realistically need to spend on bringing in EPL quality players. The Ashley regime don’t want to spend more than 10m on any single player, but are happy to rake in the TV cash. The club will pick up at least 35% more in TV cash than it did the last time it was it the EPL.

    This club urgently needs a quality EPL standard striker and a number ten. It is pointless even trying to bring in sub 20m players as they won’t be good enough in the present market. Bringing in “bargains” from the bargain basement bins of Europe’s weaker league will end up wasting the fad lads money.

    • Oooh bobbi fleckman

      Have you ever seen a Rafa Benitez team play? The players you list as required do not exist in a Rafa side.

      • HarryHype59

        Oh yes they do Bobbi! Both are problem positions. Gayle is too light weight to play as a lone striker and Mitro is just too slow. Neither Perez or Slomo impressed last great and both are squad players at best. Your inability to see the obvious is shown yet again!

        Unless substantial investment is made in these positions Newcastle will be this years Boro, going down due to lack of goals.

        • Oooh bobbi fleckman

          We desperately need a no. 10? What sort of no.10 do you mean? Benitez’ sides do not have room for a Beardsley type player.

          He also plays just one up front, from Torres, Higuan to Drogba. So if he brings in a striker, Gayle is in competition with him not partnering him. If your opinion is Gayle is lightweight, I think you are wrong, in a Benitez’ side we need speed up top which is why Mitro does not work in his side.