It took Arsene Wenger exactly 19 months to win his first trophy for the Arsenal fans.

On 3 May 1998, Arsenal won their 10th league match in a row as they beat Everton, the match that clinched the Premier League title.

Then 13 days later Arsene Wenger won his second trophy for the Arsenal fans, beating Newcastle (photo above is of Newcastle and Arsenal fans on Wembley way that day) to record the double and his first FA Cup win.

Today’s (Sunday 23 April 2017) semi-final win over Manchester City means that the Gunners go to play Chelsea next month in the FA Cup final.

Victory in that game at Wembley would mean Arsene Wenger had won the FA Cup seven times for the Arsenal fans, with only two clubs having won the premier domestic cup competition more in their entire history (see the full list of clubs below who have won the FA Cup more than once).

A win would also mean three FA Cup trophies in these last four years the Arsenal fans have seen.

Just let that all sink in…Arsenal fans would have seen their club win the FA Cup three times in four years and they are running a campaign full of hatred to get rid of him, ridiculing Arsene Wenger.

No wonder supporters of every other club are treating them with contempt. Their sense of entitlement is breathtaking.

In 20 years at the club, Arsene Wenger has delivered three Premier League titles, six Charity Shields and six FA Cup victories.

In addition they got to the Champions League final and the last 19 seasons have seen Champions League football every single year.

Yet, once again, the Arsenal fans are treating him like a failure.

Arsene Wenger has built Arsenal, almost single-handedly, to what they are now – his eye for talent has seen a parade of top notch players recruited plus year after year he brings players through from inside the club. All of this has financed their magnificent modern stadium, so necessary to replace Highbury which could never have supported the size of the club we see now.

Yet still the Arsenal fans abuse Arsene Wenger mercilessly.

Wouldn’t it be class if Arsene Wenger wins the FA Cup next month and they go on a late run to get Champions League qualification, only for the Arsenal boss to put a big two fingers up to the so-called Arsenal fans who are so desperate to get rid of him….then his replacement to come in and the team to bomb instantly next season, finish a ‘disastrous’ seventh and exit all cup competitions at the earliest opportunity.

Only then would some Arsenal fans eventually realise just what a disgrace they are, abusing a Manager in Arsene Wenger who has given them so much.

Imagine if when Newcastle faced Arsenal in that 1998 FA Cup final, we had had a manager who would go on to do all the above in the intervening period…???

We’d all be worshipping at his statue outside St James Park, not campaigning for his departure.

Arsene Wenger trophies at Arsenal so far:

FA Premier League (3): 1997–98, 2001–02, 2003–04

FA Cup (6): 1997–98, 2001–02, 2002–03, 2004–05, 2013–14, 2014–15

FA Community Shield (6): 1998, 1999, 2002, 2004, 2014, 2015

Clubs who have won most FA Cups:

Arsenal – 12

Manchester United – 12

Tottenham Hotspur – 8

Aston Villa – 7

Chelsea – 7

Liverpool – 7

Blackburn Rovers – 6

Newcastle United – 6

Everton – 5

Manchester City – 5

Wanderers – 5

West Bromwich Albion – 5

Bolton Wanderers – 4

Sheffield United – 4

Wolverhampton Wanderers – 4

Sheffield Wednesday – 3

West Ham United – 3

Bury – 2

Nottingham Forest – 2

Old Etonians – 2

Preston North End – 2

Portsmouth – 2

Sunderland – 2

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  • Albert Stubbins

    of course its all about perspective- as a Newcastle fan its seems incredulous that you would want rid of a manager who has won you so much but winning is like a drug- if youve had a lot of success you expect it rather than want it and that is what has happened at Arsenal- they Expect to win more because theyve had so much success- we as Newcastle fans would love any kind of success because weve had precious little to get excited about for years. Its hard to imagine ever becoming so arrogant as a fan base but its happened to lots of other clubs over the years- Man utd and possibly even Liverpool. We on the other hand almost expect to lose- why? because we’re used to it. Hopefully Rafa can change this mentality for good- and how will we repay this change in mentality- we’ll want rid of him as soon as he goes on a bad run, lol lol- no of course we wouldnt do that – we’re better than that arn’t we?

  • Mark

    As much as I ageee that from the outside looking in AW should be untouchable arsenal fans are drunk on success and ambition and who’s to say we would be any different, let us not forget we had an element who helped get Bobby Robson sacked!!!!

    All Football fans are generally cut from the same cloth and we have a varying view of the football clubs we love from slightly delusional to full blown unrealistically mental, that’s football, managers and players need to be able to cope with it.

  • Lord

    I’ve seen plenty of people on this forum moan and gripe about Rafa’s tactics and boring play.

    Some have actually posted ‘he should go’. Nuts!

    I don’t think those moaners represent the majority of our fans but the vocal gripe merchants get the headlines and the phone-in slots. Maybe it’s the same at Arsenal. Most Arsenal fans I know are frustrated they are not doing better in the league (sound familiar?) but generally appreciate what they’ve got. Ferguson -> Moyes is a sobering lesson for even the biggest clubs.

  • Jimblag23

    I agree, but Newcastle fans didn’t exactly cover themselves in glory with Sir Bobby. So…….

  • Kneebotherm8

    Arsene,you’re a total failure. And us deluded toon fans,according to the southern press,who’ve had to put up with a procession of well below standard managers,until Rafa arrived.Our expectations/hopes have been far too ambitious according to them. Pity we haven’t had Wenger for the past two decades. “Better the devil you know” springs to mind,and when they’ve forced him out they deserve the fate that we endured when Sir Bobby was forced out by Shepherd and co.

    • Geordiegiants

      Well said, I hope they get what they deserve.
      Moyes would be good 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

      • Kneebotherm8

        Totally agree they deserve someone like him,but I’d rather Moyes stayed at the Mackems and kept them going on their downward spiral.

        • Geordiegiants

          Ha ha lol. I suppose your right there, they can’t afford to sack him so they are well and truly stuck with him.

  • Rich Lawson

    In Arsene we trust !

  • MichaelMaximusMoose

    He`d have a 50ft statue up here

  • Leazes Ender

    There is another way to read the situation at Arsenal.

    Demanding fans keep their club at the highest level…. the mindset of fans in the North is that of a defeated people….. any old cobblers is good enough for the likes of us!…..you can see that in posters such as ‘Wor Monga’ and ‘bobbi fleckman’ … these are the fans who allow the club to fail again and again….. and we have a lot of them…. an awful lot of them.

    They are a blight not only on the club but on our region and City…. absolute scoundrels of the worst sort.

    Success is dependent on keeping those in power in check and that works for democracy and industry too, because where there is no check or balance you get the likes of the Ashleys of this world…. complacent and dictatorial, surrounded by yes men.

    Make the club work….keep asking questions of it…. not fawning defeatism like the local hacks of the Chronicle!

    • HappyToons

      ‘any old cobblers is good enough for the likes of us!’

      In the North East folk vote Labour every time and every election- two jags and ten pies Prescott and Buffoon the Blair-Kinnock the comb over-Foot in mouth-as long as it is Labour, and the same good Geordie folk will vote for even a lost cause like Corbyn the Communist. Maybe these are the followers of the lost cause that is NUFC ;-)

      BTW I won’t vote Labour, but follow the lost cause due to some birth defect-I was born here!

      • Leazes Ender

        That is to do with poverty…. the Liberals and Conservatives offer nothing but sticking up for their mates…. when we wan’t to dual the A1 who do we ask Tyneside or Edinburgh…. neither its Westminster and the people here want London to rule us…. how thick is that…. we have the politicians we deserve and the football club we deserve they won’t stand up….

        BTW Corbyn standing up for the basic rudiments of civilisation health and education, housing and jobs, makes him alright in my book….. he’s got guts to stand up.

        • Geordiegiants

          He is a tw*t, and so is anyone that votes for him.

          • Leazes Ender

            Stupid lad

          • Geordiegiants

            Ha ha

        • Sing in the Leazes

          Well said!
          The southern, Tory, Murdoch-owned press and the ruling elite
          despise him and fear what he might do to their grip on society. Unfortunately these days most people are so stupid (poorly educated) that they accept what they read in the Sun and hear on SKY and believe this mild-mannered gentleman to be a raving commie loon.
          As Frankie Boyle brilliantly put it “Extremist Corbyn wants to stop spending billions on Trident. Meanwhile the more moderate sections of the Labour party want to retain the ability to heat the skeletons of 3 billion people to 100,000 degrees!”

  • Geordiegiants

    Bunch of fools, it’s a bit like the new Citeh fans, they haven’t got a clue what a real football club is about.
    The problem today is it’s a results driven industry and not an entertainment industry anymore.

  • Peter Robson

    What the Gooner fans really deserve is a good double dose of Pardew and Carver to make them appreciate what they have/had in Wenger !!!