Deadline day didn’t throw up any pleasant surprises but as well as Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa heading to Rome, we had the less obvious Hatem Ben Arfa relocation to Hull City.

While we all await what Hatem does, or doesn’t, do under Steve Bruce – how does everybody feel about the situation Ben Arfa finds himself in?

hatem ben arfaOnce one of the golden boys of French football, going on loan to Hull City maybe wasn’t what he and others envisaged as a career path, nor possibly did they ever imagine he’d end up with a manager like Alan Pardew!

To get a flavour of what the French football public make of the latest move by their prodigal son, we asked our top translator Pierre to have a look over the Channel and these are some of the fan reactions left on the L’Equipe website regarding Hatem’s latest career move;

I wish him good luck, not a bad boy, just lost.

Ben Arfa performing at Hull will make Newcastle fans hate Pardew even more.

Good luck Hatem, show us your talent, please!

The Golden Foot at Hull, what an event!

He is happy to have found a way out, he was really liked by the fans and everything went wrong after his clash with Pardew.

Hull would probably still be in the Europa league if they had gone earlier for him!

A good player but always seems to have problems at every club he goes to and with coaches; at 27 a good age to bounce back, good luck.

Hull is the last chance in his career.

Hull is renowned for being the least intellectual place in England, he will fit in nicely.

Good luck Hatem, have a great season and shut up your doubters!

Shows again that Newcastle is only a stepping stone.

Benzema, Ribery and Ben Arfa will end up in Qatar

As long as he regains pleasure in playing, he could shine being away from a very mediocre Pardew.

Next year: Bristol City; in 2 years: Doncaster Rovers; in 3 years: Fc Aubervilliers…

What a fall!

Playing at Hull is 100 times better than playing in France, at least they have supporters unlike here in France! The Newcastle fans did support HBA and Hull supporters will do the same.

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GToon
GToon

Here's my list of how he could turn things round. I know it's only my opinion but some of the points are shared.

If he has changed he will do the following:

1 get a decent manager in.

2 give the manager control of players sales/purchases.

3 address the sponsorship issue, maybe paying the SBR foundation for the honor of wearing their name rather than charging.

4 keep the best players (I'm not listing them as everyone's opinion is different).

5 get rid of the worst players without trying to make a profit on them.

6 try and win a cup

if he hasn't changed he will do the following:

1 immediately sell players and then say there is now some money to spend.

2 appoint Carver full time because he deserves his chance.

3 keep the club debt at the same never diminishing level while pocketing all the other money the club generates.

4 refuse to sell up when things continue to go wrong.

Wonder which list get the most ticked off it.

hettonmag
hettonmag

I can't believe some people on this forum tonight  they are on  how insulting this open letter from AO is. Has Cashley not been insulting us for the past 8 years, he has disrespected us at  every  opportunity.  

Andgeo
Andgeo

Is charnley a Mackem???

GToon
GToon

I like it so much I will pay for the stamp. 2nd class, like. I'm not made of money! Good letter. Now that he seems interested in what us fans think, there's even a chance one of his minions might show him it.

Hetton Mag
Hetton Mag

Excellent letter. Just the sort of dialogue I wish could be had with Cashley actually having to justify his own, crass, puerile and shallow response to eight years of chronic mismanagement. I am stunned at the comments here supporting him. How gullible. A few half assed burbling so and everything is forgiven. just the same complicity in brainwashing that brought us another vile Tory government. please wake up the cancer in OUR club remains.

Roscoefriend
Roscoefriend

What a pathetic letter. Sounds like it has been written by an angry 12 year old.

Yes the guy has been nothing short of shocking for 8 years but he says he is going to change that and has publicly stated he is going to try and win something or get back into the champions league. Isn't that exactly what we are all asking for? Ambition?

Let's give them a chance to make things right this summer...

At least we now have some hope for the future.

HWTL

GToon
GToon

It would be great to believe him but it would almost be a total change in direction. Notice he didn't mention keeping our better players.

Andgeo
Andgeo

He may have stated that he thinks he now has ambition but what the ashley out campaign is saying is after 8 years he has demonstrated that he is not equipped to deliver. With total idiots like charnley around we will never improve.

The simple solution is for ashley to bring in a management team who have an attachment to the club and who have experienced success in the past. We need people who know what needs to be done to be successfull and not second rate arse lickers like chumpley.

NottsToon
NottsToon

If peoples biggest complaint here is that the letter is a bit insulting to the bloke who has ripped the heart out of the football club then I suggest that you all stay away from the internet. There are some nasty people out here and delicate little petals like you could end up in counselling for years.

NottsToon
NottsToon

@IntravenusMP @NottsToon Sorry, my mistake. I thought the issue was the near relegation of the club due to gross mismanagement. Not to mention the relegation we've already suffered for the same reason, the lies, the player sales, profiteering and disrespect of club legends. 


i mean, if the REAL issue is people opposing that and not being very polite about it then I totally misread the situation. My apologies.

IntravenusMP
IntravenusMP

@NottsToon  The issue is that these AO guys are pretending to be the self-appointed mouthpiece of the supporters. They are demanding to be taken seriously so the language of a keyboard warrior is not really appropriate when responding to the first bit of dialogue with the owner.

GToon
GToon

Let's hope they never stumble across the true Geordie on YouTube then!

GToon
GToon

He's funny though!

GToon
GToon

The bottom line is that what you and I say and what Ashley says is basically of very little value. It's all about actions. Let's see what happens.

TheBoneYard
TheBoneYard

While fully understanding the total lack of trust in Ashley's words and the need to keep the heat turned up on him, I still find the whole tone of the letter as being very puerile with a negative aggression. A more positive aggression that challenges Ashley to demonstrate that his words have foundatiuon would have been a better negotiating start position. First challenge is the question of club management, lets see action now by releasing a statement re Carver's and Charnley's postions, why wait to take action on these key roles - take action now and show the fans that this time you realy do mean change.

Personaly I dont believe Ashley, and believe the interview was a rather clumsy PR stunt, but what the interview did do was get Ashley on record - the letter should have used this fact and challenged his committed words, deconstructing every word in order to find fault is easy, sarcasm is lame and cheap insults is defeatest.

StephenBowers
StephenBowers

That's it. Every time you turn the telly on Mike Ashley, Come to think of it can't be any worse than Carrager,Neville and Rednapp.

NottsToon
NottsToon

Amazing how quickly principles are bought with a few words from the man who has overseen relegation, multiple humiliations, destruction of our heritage and disrespecting our heroes. It appears that the wider football community, the southern media and even Graeme Souness has a point about the fickleness of certain sections of the Toon Army.

Paul Patterson
Paul Patterson

To lower one's self to mocking someones speech pattern is quite ridiculous.

This letter helps no-body.

DonDickson
DonDickson

Sorry guys but with this letter you just handed the high ground back to the fat man,if you had come out and pushed the positives from what he was saying then when he didn't deliver again you would have really caused a ground swell in your favour with thousands standing up in response to your demonstrations instead of the few hundred,I hate Ashley I don't trust him but at the end of the day he is a successful businessman and when someone like him comes on TV and talks for the first time you have to listen he has not got his business where it is today by being a idiot but he has got my football club on its knees by being one this is his last chance to put things right lets hope he takes it because he has now by going public on live TV put his business reputation on the line so shut up please and wait till he lets us down again and then I will happily endorse you're AO campaign but you lost me at the moment with your Stupid response.

mrkgw
mrkgw

Don - likewise. That letter is a disgrace and highly personal. The moral high ground has been lost now. Big time.

NotFatFreddy
NotFatFreddy

To be fair Ashley came across as more normal than most Club owners.  Remember he is a businessman first; was a squash coach-so a sports fan, surely he wants NUFC to be successful as his business brain will register it is good also for him personally and good for his Sports Direct brand.


The problem is he is surrounded by gnomes.  I would happily support Ashley if he got rid of his gnomes; put in place some top football guys with experience and trustworthiness; appointed someone as a Manager not Coach, who can bring in his own staff (including a coach).  Pump in at least 100 million this summer.


So there you go, I must be in a good mood since we stayed up. Imagine if Ashley woke up from a dream and realised he had really bought the golden ticket. Owner of a Great Club with loyal fans.  No trophies for years.  And he wanted to be that owner who actually was remembered for winning something!  He remains in control of our nightmare, but he could make the dreams come true IF ONLY HE WOKE UP TO THE FACT! 


That is the sort o letter he needs to read, not the dross above.

NottsToon
NottsToon

Sorry, but all this talk of waiting to see if he makes good on his word is insane. How many times does this man have to lie to you before you get the point that he is a liar? Just because he had a nice chat with a fellow Keith Bishop client and didn't give any details whatsoever about how he plans to change things it appears that some people have totally forgotten what has gone before.


How many summers, how many transfer windows, how many managerial appointments have we sat here and said "let's wait and see what happens"? Wake the fvck up.

NottsToon
NottsToon

@IntravenusMP @NottsToon Well, speaking as someone who has never written an open letter in his life, I'm going to start by laughing at you for being an idiot.

toon tony
toon tony

"I will CONTIUE THE POLICY OF INVESTING IN THE CLUB "....continue what investing ???. No mention of I will not sell our best players either.

mrkgw
mrkgw

A shocklingly bad, unprofessional and quite brutal letter. Yes, Ashley damaged the club in our eyes but at last, he spoke to us yesterday. I thought that he came across relatively well and liked what he had to say. We should now give him a fresh chance to deliver.

mrkgw
mrkgw

Radgiegadgie - Absolutely.

radgiegadgie
radgiegadgie

Yes, very childish and full of hatred.

I suspect what ever he would say would be greeted with this kind of pathetic retort.

He has managed the club badly, he's admitted that, had the balls to turn up at the ground as well as gone on the camera - something he obviously does not feel comfortable about - and made a commitment.

Just let it go and see what happens.

v0ices
v0ices

@mrkgw hes had more than enough chances. repeat the same time and again and you expect different results?

IntravenusMP
IntravenusMP

Te Ashley out campaign just look like a bunch of self-appointed, attention-seeking fools who are mor eintersted in their own voice than adding anything positive.

hettonmag
hettonmag

@IntravenusMP  What a stupid idiotic comment to make would you have posted had we got beat yesterday I very much doubt it.

IntravenusMP
IntravenusMP

@hettonmag @IntravenusMP Yes I would, i don't mind contsructive debate but these guys are getting excited by their own self-importance. The rest of the country are laughing at NUFC because of these people.

hettonmag
hettonmag

@IntravenusMP @hettonmag  This man has actually broken the hearts and sole's of the fans of this great club and yet people on here are prepared to give him more chances, how many times has he  got to kick to kick some fans before you say enough is enough.

IntravenusMP
IntravenusMP

@hettonmag @IntravenusMP In which case, get a group together, re-mortgage your homes and make him an offer. Paul Merson said yesterday that talk is cheap, nobody else seems to be prepared to put their money where their mouth is. 

Ollie Burtons Grandad
Ollie Burtons Grandad

One win and the Friends of Fatman reappear, how bloody predictable.

Fatman is a documented liar so his words mean nothing; let's see if he actually does anything concrete as opposed to trying to boost season ticket sales with verbal diarrhoea.

If he gets rid of Charnley and Carver and replaces them with people who actually have a clue its s start. Personally I reckon both of the Muppets will still be there at the start of next season.

The clock is ticking for Fatman and his apologists.

RichGibb
RichGibb

What an unprofessional letter! Ok, so MA's interview wasn't exactly great. It sounded a bit scripted to me in places. And he's been too vague on some important issues. However...to respond with childish remarks, and low brow sarcasm? I don't know, it just seems to dilute the valid points we have as supporters that have undergone eight years of poor mismanagment.


I can't help but feel that this 'open' letter to MA weakens our position by painting us as fans in a hostile light. Yes we want him to leave, for obvious reasons. But if he's not to leave, a compromise needs to be reached. One in which he starts to invest in the club and re focuses our ambition to a level which falls in line with the stature of Newcastle United. This letter to Mike Ashley should have been calling him out, in a professional manner, to back up what he's said with actions. Not used as a second rate opportunity to have a dig!

nufcmag777
nufcmag777

It won't be long to judge whether its all shite or not by the appointment Charnley makes and the new players signed.

IanGaskill
IanGaskill

The door stops at Mr Charnley the man who couldn't run a chip shop never mind our football club.This is the same man that came out in January and quoted that the team was big enough and strong enough for the rest of the season so therefore we won't be bringing anybody in, and looked what happened we where saved by two players who stood up in the last game to save us from relegation Jose and the fans.Not only did this man fail to see we needed a centre half and a proven goalscorer he decided to let two defenders leave, he even tried to besmirch david Santon who bye the way didn't want to leave. If this man stays in his position nothing will or ever change he is Lambias in disguise

truemagpie
truemagpie

I believe he will get bonus from the profits.

Andreasmt
Andreasmt

Why write this to Mike and not lee charnley. The only thing Mike can do is to fire him since he is responsible for all club related issues.

Ashley's interview is a pr stunt to attract new players this summer. Letting everybody know that he will support our club with money to buy players this summer.

I hope we can still get some good players and not find us in a similar position next year.

PittsburghMagpie
PittsburghMagpie

If you fall for Mike Ashley comments, then I have a bridge I want to sell you. The past 8 years speak volumes about his intentions. The interview was just one last gasp to try and back off the protesters and pressure so this parasite could leech off the club a while longer before being driven out. Don't fall for his games.

wor monga
wor monga

@PittsburghMagpie       Hey man…we’ve got more bridges here than we know what do to with already…so you can sell yours to the mackems…

Demented_Man
Demented_Man

@PittsburghMagpie We win a game, Lord Gutbucket deigns to address his loyal serfs, and wouldn't you just know it?


The usual suspects come out of the skirting board to deliver lectures on being nice to fat parasites!


Expect more platitudes in the next few days about giving Fat Boy a chance etc.


Get those season tickets in lads!

Oustonlad
Oustonlad

Do you and others now support opposing MA more than supporting NU?

MA has done so much wrong and made so many bad decisions but yesterday delivered something new.

Hope.

If he doesn't follow it through with tangible action then his words will prove to be futile and hollow. It won't take very long to find out, and I for one am prepared to wait a few weeks to find out. If he reverts to form I'll be as ante as anyone.

In that case proper concerted and intelligent opposition will be required, not the level of juvenile, incoherent, spiteful, ill advised and poorly written drivel demonstrated in this letter.

Munich Mag
Munich Mag

@Oustonlad maybe the MA Out campaign are adopting the "kick him while he's down" tactic to ensure that he really does do something meaningful in the summer. As an earlier poster mentioned, we'll find out pretty soon if the words were all just hot air. 

Charnley is on a hiding to nothing, can see the "we just couldn't get them over the line" excuse being rolled out, when Ashley bankrolls a massive budget of 4 million euros to invest in the team in the summer...