FabricioColoccini36Saturday 9 February
Tottenham 2 Newcastle United 1 (Gouffran 24)

It is a hard call but when Newcastle went a goal down after a few minutes, would I have then settled fr a final scoreline of 2-1 to the home side? Possibly.

To me the performance mattered just as much as the result today and we again had evidence that some of the play we have seen against Villa and Chelsea isn’t going to be short-lived.

The way the players picked themselves up after that early blow was very reassuring. Some of the interplay between the likes of Sissoko, Cabaye, Gouffran and Cisse was excellent, while the way the full-backs added to the attacking play hinted at exciting times ahead.

With that collection of creative/intelligent players Jonas was then in his element helping to block Bale down the wing and also getting around the rest of the pitch to pressurise the opposition and break up play.

As for Perch, he did alright but I think the experiment of keeping him in the team at the expense of Tiote will be a short-lived one.

Newcastle’s defending contributed to the killer second goal but overall they contained a dangerous Tottenham side well. I suppose though the question is whetehr Mapou would help take it onto another level. On Thursday we should see our first proper look at him against FC Metalist in the Europa League match.

This was always going to be a tough match against fourth placed Spurs and when Bale put a Ronaldo-esque free-kick over the wall from twenty five yards plus, United could have easily gone to pieces.

Coloccini sold himself to give away the free-kick and Perch could have jumped like Jonas did in the wall but you have to accept that a free-kick like that deserves a goal.

A few weeks ago I reckon we would have headed for the break at least two or three down but the recent transformation has been astonishing. Though when you have half a team of quality players added to your starting eleven; Taylor, Cabaye, Debuchy, Sissoko, Gouffran, maybe it gives you a bit of a clue.

There was no panic, the players picked themselves up and got on with the match.

There reward was weathering the storm, playing themselves back into the game and equalising!

A flowing move ended with Sissoko pulling the ball back for Gouffran who smashed it into the net via a deflection, game on after twenty four minutes.

The rest of the half saw United continue their form and just edge the half. Jonas and Gouffran massive factors in ensuring Bale and Lennon had little joy.

Layout 1Second half saw little change as the two sides cancelled each other out but possibly the crucial blow was a bad looking injury to Gouffran after an hour. Given oxygen on the pitch replays showed it may have been accidental but nevertheless crushing for Newcastle.

A great shame as Gouffran was having his best game so far and on top of his goal he was showing some really clever play as United kept possession well, whilst at the same time pressurised the home team when not having possession.

Tottenham made changes to try and grab the win and in a roundabout way it paid off, changes meant Bale went through the middle and a long clearance saw both Perch and Coloccini hesitate which invited Bale to nip in and accelerate away with the ball. Game over.

Tiote came on but our shortage of attacking options to change matches was highlighted once again, with both Marveaux and Shola anonymous, although a deflection in injury time put in Shola but Lloris was quick off his line and blocked well.

As much as a defeat can be uplifting this was it, last week we edged out a very good team and this week Newcastle were the ones edged out. If we keep playing like this we’ll be OK.

The points return may be the same but there is a world of difference between today and the tame surrender we’ve seen at places like Southampton and home to Reading.

Onwards and upwards.

Tottenham: Lloris, Walker, Dawson, Caulker, Naughton (Assou-Ekotto 75), Parker, Dembele (Livermore 90), Lennon, Holtby (Adebayor 69), Bale, Dempsey

Newcastle United: Krul, Debuchy, Taylor, Coloccini, Santon, Cabaye, Perch (Tiote 82), Gutierrez (Shola 86), Sissoko, Gouffran (Marveaux 59), Cisse

Unused Subs: Harper, Mapou, Anita, Obertan

Ref: Phil Dowd

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39 comments
The Adelphi
The Adelphi

Not moving on until we've won something or qualified for The Champions League. That could be a 15 year plan for all we know. Nice of you to inform us of that little detail Mike. Good work


grahame49
grahame49

In my time as a Newcastle fan I've seen clubs like Luton Oxford Coventry Middlesbrough etc win cups when Newcastle were allegedly the larger club as a fan its hard to say but we've never been run as a club that puts fans first

CMRowley
CMRowley

This is exactly my point.  Nothing was said, this is symptomatic of everything that comes out of the club, lots of words that say nothing.  I keep reading from commentators it's a good thing that he admitted his mistakes, that the club has admitted it's made mistakes.


What mistakes have they admitted to?  Nothing.  A general statement of nothing.


Ashley didn't even admit to any mistakes in his little two man pantomime.  He said the responsibility for our position stopped at his door.  That is not admitting a mistake, it's confirming that he is in ultimate control.


I would love to hear what these people think there mistakes are, I guarantee you they are different to mistakes everyone else knows they have made.

wor monga
wor monga

This Ashley Out saga is getting to be like a TV soap opera…with the same characters trotting out financial facts, and the same old same old debt statements that they’ve bandied on about non-stop for donkeys years, and still will many more to come…I suppose it makes them tick…and gives them the chance to argue online all day whilst patting each other on the back, and slagging the others off.


What they can’t convince the vast majority is simply how they intend force Ashley out…especially now that he’s held his hand up, and told the world he is not going anywhere, even after the terrible season he caused and with relegation staring us in the face…and with that the likelihood  of a very uneasy financial future for the club ahead…


The truth is the boat they were desperately hoping to catch had already sailed…because everybody just went home relieved, and still prepared to keep faith, after seeing the team prepared to fight for their lives…and let others face the drop...


So if Ashley doesn't want to go...with a few bedsheets, red cards, etc...what' s next?...

wor monga
wor monga

@NottsToon .....No…just tell me how you intend to force Ashley out…when all I can see is a total failure to influence the vast majority so far, and he has already told the world he doesn’t intend to go…


(If you want answers to questions of a medical nature then why not search out a more appropriate web site!!) 

wor monga
wor monga

@NottsToon     There you go patting yourself on the back again…


…but it’s common knowledge, there’s been nothing except negative and  bad publicity concerning the club for quite a few years now…(in fact I can’t think of any good publicity since we finished 5th)


…but, it still hasn’t swayed the vast majority to join you and your protest movement…so why not inform me how you intend to force Ashley out, when he appears determined not to go…


...and all I see (at SJP and) on here… is the same few bloggers applauding their ‘magnificent’ achievements to force him out so far!!!

NottsToon
NottsToon

Your argument is absurd beyond reason. We don't know how we're going to cure cancer either, should we all stop donating to charity and tell the doctors and scientists to pack away their microscopes until there's a definitive plan?

NottsToon
NottsToon

You ridiculous man, continuing to pay to be insulted whilst attempting to deride those who actually put in a voice and effort for change.

Enjoy your next internet holiday when the owner does yet another fantastic job of showing you up as the sycophantic plumb that you are.

NottsToon
NottsToon

It appears that the protests and negative publicity are doing the trick so far, especially as he has felt the need to get chatt. So more of that then.

You keep handing your cash over though pal, and feel free to take another 6 week holiday from The Mag next time fatty shits on your dreams.

wor monga
wor monga

@NottsToon     Aye… you can’t answer a reasonable question…and so you get stuck in with the abuse…that’s probably why the vast majority of the Toon supporters aren’t listening to what you're spouting, snotts  

NottsToon
NottsToon

It was answered two posts back you nugget. Not my fault that you won't accept any answer which isn't printed in braille on Mike Ashley's bell end is it?

Sickandtiredstill
Sickandtiredstill

@wor monga @NottsToon Maybe you should be asking yourself and fellow supporters that question?

No matter what this parasite does, you just keep going along. I'd rather applaud the efforts of people trying to force or influence a change, than those that do absolutely nothing while expecting things to get better.


wor monga
wor monga

@NottsToon     Ah that was your answer, snotts…that the negative publicity had forced Ashley to make a televised statement…telling the football world he admitted the mistakes, but that he wasn’t leaving whatever the price even if the club was relegated…


…or was it that bit where you dribbled some sh*te about me not bothering to comment on your negative outpourings over the last few weeks? 

prestondave
prestondave

@wor monga @NottsToon One thing Id like to say Wor Monga. If it is proved by lack of action after Ashleys speech,where will you stand.? Say we keep clueless Carver in charge and we get 3-4 players who are an unknown entity or dont have Premiership experience. Will that change your way of thinking or will you wait until we go say 10 games without picking a point up.? At what point will you say this is scandalous and give up or will you carry on going regardless of results or League we are in.?

NottsToon
NottsToon

To paraphrase your master, the goblin king of tat direct, to be categorically clear as the protests and negative publicity have clearly provoked a reaction it would be foolish to change this course to all but the interminably dim, of which you are one.

Marklp
Marklp

That can also be turned on its head, if Ashley invests heavily gets a decent manager will that stop the negativity or is it more about Ashley than NUFC.

I supported the boycot and feel it has had an impact but all I care about is NUFC and if Ashley splashes the cash, I'll be a happy man.

wor monga
wor monga

@Sickandtiredstill  Over the last few weeks on this site I read quite a few comments…from some of those you are asking me to applaud…who saw the club being relegated as the way to get Ashley out…


... Yet on Sunday I saw almost 50,000 totally behind the players who were doing their utmost to avoid that happening…even after the worst 3-4 mths of football we’ve had in a long time!!


...keep the faith, and support the Toon...

wor monga
wor monga

@NottsToon     …Telling the world he is here to stay until the club wins something…that’s the reaction you were hoping for then, is it snotts ?

prestondave
prestondave

@Marklp its all conjecture at the minute. History has proved he is a liar. And lets face it, FCB is an astute businessman. Do you really think it has taken all this time to admit its his fault.? He did his little cameo appearance because if it went against us against West Ham he said something to limit the abuse and damage. There is absolutely no stand out promise in anything he said apart from he intends to stay. The rest is down to interpretation. My feeling is he will carry on as normal or do the bare minimum to keep his cash cow afloat. In the meantime you will see numerous stories about all these great players we are going to TRY and get over the line and the candidates for the Managers job. And this storyline will drag on and on until the deadline for your season ticket renewal is up. You then have a choice to make. Renew or boycott.?My question is : At what point do you admit/realise that he has mugged you off and its normal service resumed and what would you be prepared to do about it if anything.?My thoughts are based on FCBs actual words and the fact that Charver hasnt been sacked yet nor Penfold. 

wor monga
wor monga

@prestondave    Ashley has the chance to change things now, and if he doesn’t then he’s more stupid than I’d give him credit for…seeing as he has told the world of his intentions…not just some local interested group of fans, through Charnley.


…but whatever the outcome… he owns the club, lock, stock and barrel…and it’s a goldmine…so whether any protest could force him out is highly unlikely IMO!! 

NottsToon
NottsToon

@wor monga @NottsToon And you believed him? More fool you (surprisingly). 


So where will you stand if (when) this false dawn that mugs like you seem to think the benevolent owner has promised turns out to be more of the same? Where is your tipping point? How much sh1t pie will you eat before admitting you don't like the taste?

prestondave
prestondave

@wor monga @prestondave Youre right he does have the chance to change things and I for one hope he does but not just a little bit to keep us up. We need big changes. Again, I will say there was nothing he said apart from his intention to stay that gives me any real hope until it actually happens. My question to you is as per my previous comment. Fragmented campaigns only get some news coverage but as we have seen as the situation gets worse then more people take notice. If nothing changes then you, me and all disenchanted fans can make a difference. Dont think it wont because it scared him enough to say something. 

NottsToon
NottsToon

@wor monga @prestondave He didn't tell the world anything other than a bullish statement about remaining in charge you pleb.


Aside from that, please tell me what you extracted from Ashleys statement that has given you any hope for change whatsoever? 


I eagerly await your answer.

Sickandtiredstill
Sickandtiredstill

@wor monga @prestondave He's going to change things by - leaving everything exactly the same?


Come on, man. Charnley is as clueless as Ashley is. What more evidence do you need after another barely avoided relegation?

Wallsendstu
Wallsendstu

A couple of points made over the last few days leave me with serious doubts. The first was during the fat mans interview where as has been mentioned the managerial decision will be left to Penfold. (By the way Craigs interview was very gentle to say the least). The second as has been reported that Carver is still being considered by Penfold. That was followed by they will take into consideration the position he was left in. He was left in a position in the league where if he had shown any sort of quality or ability we would not have had to witness what we did. We are being linked with numerous players as per the norm but the true intent will be shown by the appointment of the next manager/coach. This brings me to the last concern, we were told that a decision would be made quickly (before Carver went on holiday today) now we are told that Penfold will take his time and not rush into it. Is that not what we were told in January and look how that turned out. We have seen the old cliches being dragged out, ' put his money where his mouth is' the proof of the pudding' etc. However until the fat man does no one should trust him and before people jump on my back, we can only go on what has gone before, which is why so many people dont believe a word.

Mal44
Mal44

I agree. The fact that the decision is being left to Charnley fills me with horror and we are keeping Carver and Stone whatever, who will have no credibility with the players. It doesn't look good.

Milo79
Milo79

Keith Bishop has attempted a kind of Wizard of Oz moment by setting up the Ashley interview - away falls the curtain and before us stands a regular guy. Unassuming, sofly-spoken and a little awkward on camera. Not the all-powerful Ashley but one of us. Well it's rubbish and nobody should allow their strings to be pulled by this obvious stunt. This is the guy, remember, who 'parks his tanks on the lawn' when he sets out to wrest control of your business. Alarmingly, I know a lot of people have been, if not taken in, then at least softened up by the attempt to humanise Mike Ashley. He told us nothing, promised nothing new, and that's precisely what we should expect. 

HansKrankl
HansKrankl

What everyone seem to have missed is that sentence I will continue to invest into the club. errmmm what investment so in other words no change in policy for investment based on that

HansKrankl
HansKrankl

@prestondave @HansKrankl never seen it mentioned once on Sky or so but thank you for pointing it out to me. But then I dont have much oportunity to follow it properly. Anyways the article above seems to hit the nail on the head and sadly many will be fooled by it.

prestondave
prestondave

@HansKrankl @prestondave no worries mate. It has been mentioned on other posts on The Mag but you do need time to read through it all. And again you are right many people will be fooled by it but its what they then do when the penny drops and they know Fatty has just bent them over again.

prestondave
prestondave

@HansKrankl it wasnt missed at all mate. It has been picked up on many times in other stories. 

ArtyH
ArtyH

JMHO if you look at the quality of the players on the books, its not good enough, thankfully most will leave. But what will we be left with? Hopefully Sissoko Krul and Janmaat, the rest IMHO need replacing. This fact alone is very worrying as its a Pi$$ poor starting point for next season and the new coach to get to grips with. Not only that the amount of investment is staggering even for a EPL club, this is down to lack of investment over the years, its come back to bit him in the backside, as everyone knew it would! So from this angle I cannot see how Ashleys statement can be accurate, maybe a " terminological in-exactitude ", he has previous for such. I would LOVE to believe the statement he made on T.V and believe he would invest in the club, but I think its a bridge to far now. Worse still he will keep Charnley and he will appoint some cheap has been coach no better than we have had.  

Sickandtiredstill
Sickandtiredstill

@ArtyH What did he say exactly? He's allegedly taking no part in the decision making (yeah, right!) and leaving that up to Charnley. Penfold has no one else other than Carr and Carver to support him and that bunch just about got us relegated.

Is this what people really have a belief in working out? Coz that's what the fat man told everyone.

LeazesEnder
LeazesEnder

My feelings exactly Notts.... 


I couldn't believe the Poll that the Chronicle was running, or why it was running it..... the results showed the willingness for a large proportion of fans to say they believed the ludicrous statement that Ashley was going to have a go at the right end of the table.


For a start it sounded like a threat... 'I'm going nowhere until I win something'.... and as Lord Alan Sir Sugar pointed out.... 'he's going nowhere then'...  


Well others can see it for what it is.... what about those who voted in the Chronicles Poll.... they cant all be halfwits or Sunderland fans....


I think the financial 'debt' that was constructed and was propagated has absolutely set in an awful lot of peoples minds, so much so that, wearing a hair shirt became comfortable.... the power of saying that the asset of the stadium build is a debt rather than an asset... to be added into the sale price was unanimously deemed a burden ....for the fans to carry.... not the owner!


Even the Mag is saying it IS a Debt.... but without saying what it was.... an asset.


Sickandtiredstill
Sickandtiredstill

@LeazesEnder Wholeheartedly agree with this article and of course Leazes oft repeated explanation of the 'phantom' debt.

As for comments about 'bleating on' it really just goes to prove the point made in the article. You really can fool some of the people all of the time!

Marklp
Marklp

Nobody is being fooled, the facts are he isn't going any where and he has come out for the first time ever and said its his fault and he will turn things around.  He has a summer to prove his word, if not the protesters will have another 45,000 people in there ranks. 

By constantly bleating on Notts Toon you are achieve nothing, there is no football to boycott or protest to be at.  You may as well keep your powder dry until the start of the season and if he has lied you can sit in your ivory tower looking all smug. 

NottsToon
NottsToon

Except it isn't the first time is it? I suggest reading the previous relegation statement before making that comment again.

Obviously you have been fooled if you want to give him a chance to "prove his word". What word is this by the way? What exactly did he say that gives people any hope or think that he has anything to prove?

He promised nothing other than staying, everything else was vague and evasive. So forgive me if I laugh when I read people bleating on about him proving what he says, or holding him to a promise. Comprehension clearly not your strong point.

prestondave
prestondave

@Marklp  "if not the protesters will have another 45,000 people in there ranks.". No they wont and you know why because you are one of the believers. Its people like you that are blind/ignorant /wishful/hopeful that fatty will change his ways. He has not said anything of any substance and if he was being honest he would have sacked Charver by now but he wont because either him and/or Brolly Wally will be there. So still no ambition then.?

Marklp
Marklp

@prestondave At no stage did I say I believe him.  What I am saying is that the season has finished all that everybody can do is wait and see.  There is not one thing anybody can do at this moment, so just sit back and see what he actually does.