Layout 1In each issue of our magazine we ask a fan of another club to give their views on Newcastle United and it makes for interesting reading, how somebody outside our circle see our club and fans.

In the new issue out this weekend we talked to Stoke City fan, Jez Alcock, and here we give you a snapshot of what he had to say about Newcastle United, events at Stoke City and the football world in general.

To read the full interview and the rest of our 44 page relegation fight special, The Mag is now on sale in our online shop buy a copy for only £3 (plus p&p) or a subscription from only £23, copies also now on sale in all Tyneside newsagents.

Do They Mean Us? Stoke City

What do you think of Newcastle…

As a club?

In my view, you can no more choose your football team than you can choose your parents. You may not want to see them, they may embarrass you, you may even want to disown them; but you can never change that reality! Football allegiances should be determined by your roots and not by consumer choice. My father was born in Stoke in 1929. He still goes to Stoke City with me as do my two sons. NUFC is a team rooted in its own community with a long and proud (underachieving) history much like Stoke City in essence. Hence I have real affection for the club.

The Manager?

I’m unconvinced by Pardew. It may be something prejudicial on my part to him being a Southerner. It may be due to the mistreatment of Chris Hughton (not Pardew’s fault) but I think the 8 year deal will be a proverbial albatross around the club’s neck. Pardew’s scouting network has signed some impressive players (note Demba Ba would have signed for Stoke had he not failed his medical) and his team (when fully staffed) play with verve so I don’t know why I’m ambivalent.

The fans?

As stated, you’re passionate and loyal (and long suffering). My Middlesbrough friend says you are all delusional and to point out that his side from a town of 130,000 population has been to two Domestic and one European Cup Final whilst you have been huffing and puffiing! Leaving that on one side, that passion led to the misguided second appointment of the Messianic Keegan in my view.

Our team?

As I’ve said, I have affection for your team, leaving tribal feelings aside. You’re too far away to have any regional rivalry playing and despite your supporter base being much larger than ours I think that we have more in common than that which divides us.

I see Michael Owen is still earning his money…?

Tony Pulis becomes occasionally star struck. Last season he dismantled the formidable Huth/Shawcross centre back pairing to accommodate an unfit Woodgate. This meant periodically playing Huth or Woodgate at right back: an unmitigated and entirely predictable disaster. Owen hasn’t been fit (surprise!) and whilst his deal will be largely performance related, I’m guessing he’s probably on a £10K a week deal which, if so, is half a million quid wasted. What is galling is the quality of Cameron Jerome who consistently comes on late and changes games. He did that against you and you will have seen his wonder strike against Southampton but had Owen been fit, Jerome would have been pushed further down the order.

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16 comments
Phildene
Phildene

Sams article is exactly what we've been saying. We could be quite surprised at the improvement of a lot of the players in fitness and playing now there's quality coaching here. McClaren and his staff will put the confidence back into the players who have lost theirs through being 'Pardewed'. The players may also improve on set pieces, there again they couldn't be any worse!

Hopefully we'll see a team who enjoy playing and start winning matches next season.

Andgeo
Andgeo

He is gonna have to because there is no money for new signings!!

Steve1221
Steve1221

Marveaux, Gouffran and Riviere's failing have nothing to do with Pardew, they're simply bargain basement players who arent good enough for the Premier League.

Kazie23
Kazie23

Spot on and we need to sell them along with Anita,Colocini,Oberton and Williamson

JohnyH
JohnyH

the whole squad suffered under the Pardew and Carver 'coaching' regime, but particularly players who showed the potential to improve; Marveaux, Mbyia, HBA, Santon, to name a few. They could have knocked the life out of Messi they were that bad.

The irony is those that are still at the club will now be held up as the reason why we only need to bring in a few squad players.

Steve1221
Steve1221

Didn't seem that way with Cabaye, Ba, Remy, Debuchy, Sissoko. The success stories are sold and the failures are blamed on poor coaching but our success ratio was no worse than the likes of Ferguson or Wenger under Pardew.

TrevReav
TrevReav

That's the right attitude - let them prove themselves afresh. Even Gouffran had spurts of skill here and there and I think he *could* have the makings of a decent player if brought along the correct way.

Andgeo
Andgeo

Nar, gouffran is definitely cr@p! Always has been always will be, just like Williamson and oberthing. The three of them should have been released on free's.total insult having them at the club.

magpie9
magpie9

Just wait a couple of days & we will get McLarens first sanctioned statement which will say Marveaux is like a new signing. One more example of fatty changing his ways?

Rowla
Rowla

Don't know if it's a subconscious attempt to cheer myself (as, like Peter, I just don't see much coming in terms of quality) but I've been saying this for a while. Good coaching goes a long, long way in football, especially when it comes to organising a defence.
Nothing can hide our need for a big striker though. 

Duke Fame
Duke Fame

I was never in the 'Pardew Out' club but Marveaux and HBA were two players with bags of quality but seemed to be out of favour with Pardew.  


I'm not sure he has been at the training ground yet but would be interesting if he gets another chance. 

Phildene
Phildene

As was Mibiwa. Another class player whom Pardew couldn't handle as his man management was non-existent! Pardews training at the training ground was appalling and without any discipline, so we're finding out now.

beijingbrit
beijingbrit

I would love to see Riviere come good as he seems like an honest player, just not sure he's up to the required standard to be honest. 
Marveaux is a good player, and hopefully he will thrive under McClaren.
The coaching set up certianly seems more impressive now. Let's hope some fringe players can learn from the new set-up and reignite their careers here. Abeid, Anita, Armstrong (to an extent), Haidara etc.

Hez
Hez

Another article about Pardew on the The Mag website, how boring....

Peter Lamb
Peter Lamb

He has no choice.We won't be buying much if any.