DembaBa14After Saturday’s game vs. City and now the inevitable rumble of speculation surrounding Demba Ba, his famous contract clause, and the will he/won’t he leave debate; I thought I’d weigh in with an opinion.

From the outside looking in, it’s a case of having an educated guess about certain things, but this is how I see it at the moment.

After the arrival of Papiss Cisse last January, Demba Ba was shifted out to the left of a front three and he played there for the remainder of the season. He scored once, on 5th February against Aston Villa and, as we all know, Cisse went and bagged 13!

We played some clinical football during that period; think West Brom, Swansea and Chelsea away. I had forgotten about Cisse’s second goal at Swansea, YouTube it now if you have to! However, off the pitch Demba Ba had a wee grumble and moaned about having to play on the left. Then, in the summer, we all sweated over certain players leaving and Pardew announced Ba would play through the middle, probably “90%” of the time this season.

Now we are where we are, and I think it is there for everyone to see, that there’s an issue between Ba &Cisse, which is proving detrimental to our season. Yes, Ba is scoring goals but clearly the team was, and is, better off when Cisse is played through the middle and Ba plays on the left.

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Pardew promised Ba that he will get his game through the middle and probably didn’t realise just how much it would affect Cisse’s form, and the team as a whole.

PapissCisse46Cisse’s performances this season make it clear he is wasted in a role out wide. He looked well and truly fed up after he was subbed on Saturday, I noticed a few animated shrugs and some arm waving between him and Ba regarding movement and passing, or in Ba’s case, not passing.

There appears to be no joy in playing them as a front two either, only briefly against Stoke and Wigan did it look like there might be a connection.

It’s a bit of a pickle now as the rumours start about Ba moving on; maybe it would be better if he just went? To me, he seems to be getting preferential treatment from Pardew about where he plays, purely because Pardew seems scared to lose him.

To move the team forward, I’m starting to think we would be better off without him. If we did sell him, it would force Pardew and hopefully Ashley’s hand, we would need at least 1 replacement, a proper strike partner for Cisse or a proper winger/wide forward to compliment him in a 4-3-3. If nothing is done then Pardew needs to find a way to fit them both in, or rotate them.

It’s a sad example of player power winning over and it shouldn’t have been allowed to get this far. But then imagine the fan revolt if, in the summer, Pardew had said to Ba he should play where he is told and then Ba jumps ship?

January will be interesting, something has to give, we can’t go on all season playing the two of them in a 4-3-3 and no progress has been made with the two of them playing as a partnership.

Thoughts?

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15 comments
G Dubz
G Dubz

Signing is some 19yr old kid for 300k from the second division, I'm not excited are u?

wor monga
wor monga

It’s not easy…the selling club has to be satisfied first…then the agent (agents) has to be satisfied…and most importantly the Player has to also want to come…he’s in demand, and he may have certain preferences which means a club like ours might have to sell themselves very dearly…


...it’s not as easy as buying an ice cream although to read some of the offerings on here there’s quite a few think it is!!

phillstinchy
phillstinchy

I agree that its not as easy as buying ice cream (although that was a very good/funny analogy)

But it is not rocket science either !!

1, Have a list

2, Enquire with Club (If you agree with valuation, then pay it, if not move on to next name!)

3, If bid is excepted, then negotiate with agent and player and pay him what's he worth. If he doesn't want to come, same as above applies.... Move on to next name!)

4, If point 2 and 3 has gone well you have a new transfer!

Take the Charlie Austin example,

Leicester bid 12m and it was

rejected,why?? Because QPR want 15m.

If you believe what has been heavily rumoured and we want him then i have a simple tip for the board.... Pay the f@#king 15m !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Duke Fame
Duke Fame

@phillstinchy The bids will be matched to the highest bid, Leicester are more than likely creating a smokesceen for another target, there is no advantage in going public and they know Austin will not go to them.


He's on honeymoon, I suspect he's weighing up the chances of getting a game at Chelsea as that's the 'ambitious' move, moving his family oop norf again, the difficult but could be rewarding move or taking Saints of West Ham which will be the easy compromise. 


I suspect Chelsea will make him richer, us & the others will be similar wages.


No it's not as east as just paying the £15m. Qpr will prefer to sell to us or Chelsea simply we will pay the fee in one go.  

phillstinchy
phillstinchy

@Duke Fame I do agree with you with the potential choices and dilemmas he has.

I used him as an example as to how to progress a transfer in response to @Wor Monga,

But with him we won't know 100% if he will or not if we don't offer what they want. Chris Ramsey was interviewed on talkSPORT yesterday and sai they haven't received a single bid at the asking price.

We are not going to get to the negotiating table with anyone decent not paying what his club wants, or at least close,like the Monaco centre back ( I cant spell his name sorry), we bid £12m, they value him around £21m. (I'm not saying pay £21m for him before I get slaughtered, its another example of the way they are conducting business)

In Sports Direct if I take a pair of £70 trainers to the counter and instead of paying the cashier that amount only give her £40, what do you think will happen?

Jezza_NUFC
Jezza_NUFC

@wor monga  It's not easy you say? Well how comes all the other clubs in the Premiership seem to manage to sign new players during the transfer window?


It's only not easy to sign players when your club has got an owner who's policy for the past 8 years has been to sacrifice footballing success to line his own pockets.


Jezza_NUFC
Jezza_NUFC

I think he has been misquoted. What he meant new signs rather than signings are imminent at St James's Park. As in yet more awful red and blue signs emblazoned all over the stadium to advertise the fat parasite's horrible business. 

mactoon
mactoon

Whether it is intentionally misleading information from the club or just premature announcements of deals that take longer than intended it still shows you shouldn't take any notice of the press speculation. It's well recorded Newcastle do not discuss their targets or transfer kitty so the stories of 90 + targets we have been linked with are obviously wide of the mark. We will see players when they are signed

WilliamCarney
WilliamCarney

@mactoon Your right about Newcastle not sharing info to the press about transfers until they are actually done and dusted, a lot of the speculations that come from the press are more accurate than what you might think, the reason for this is because the press know who our agents are and follow them, so when the press see one of our agents going to a certain city or talking to another agent they know what our most likely candidates are in that city or from that agent, however a lot of transfer dealings are done primarily over a phonel.

TonnekToon
TonnekToon

I'm sure there will be signings . But of what caliber ?

Duke Fame
Duke Fame

@TonnekToon Well, Georginio Wijnaldum should be announced this week, he is almost perfect for us.



Chemical Dave
Chemical Dave

Not sure why people are fretting over signings, they will be coming as the sole objective of them arriving is to keep the gullible and the curious content.

Duke Fame
Duke Fame

@Chemical Dave heads the moaners win, tails the optimists lose?


We'll see, as ever but I get the feeling that you and a few others are determined that NUFC fails just so you can say "I told you so". 

LeazesEnder
LeazesEnder

Of course signings are imminent.... so is the start of the season!