DembaBa14After Saturday’s game vs. City and now the inevitable rumble of speculation surrounding Demba Ba, his famous contract clause, and the will he/won’t he leave debate; I thought I’d weigh in with an opinion.

From the outside looking in, it’s a case of having an educated guess about certain things, but this is how I see it at the moment.

After the arrival of Papiss Cisse last January, Demba Ba was shifted out to the left of a front three and he played there for the remainder of the season. He scored once, on 5th February against Aston Villa and, as we all know, Cisse went and bagged 13!

We played some clinical football during that period; think West Brom, Swansea and Chelsea away. I had forgotten about Cisse’s second goal at Swansea, YouTube it now if you have to! However, off the pitch Demba Ba had a wee grumble and moaned about having to play on the left. Then, in the summer, we all sweated over certain players leaving and Pardew announced Ba would play through the middle, probably “90%” of the time this season.

Now we are where we are, and I think it is there for everyone to see, that there’s an issue between Ba &Cisse, which is proving detrimental to our season. Yes, Ba is scoring goals but clearly the team was, and is, better off when Cisse is played through the middle and Ba plays on the left.

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Pardew promised Ba that he will get his game through the middle and probably didn’t realise just how much it would affect Cisse’s form, and the team as a whole.

PapissCisse46Cisse’s performances this season make it clear he is wasted in a role out wide. He looked well and truly fed up after he was subbed on Saturday, I noticed a few animated shrugs and some arm waving between him and Ba regarding movement and passing, or in Ba’s case, not passing.

There appears to be no joy in playing them as a front two either, only briefly against Stoke and Wigan did it look like there might be a connection.

It’s a bit of a pickle now as the rumours start about Ba moving on; maybe it would be better if he just went? To me, he seems to be getting preferential treatment from Pardew about where he plays, purely because Pardew seems scared to lose him.

To move the team forward, I’m starting to think we would be better off without him. If we did sell him, it would force Pardew and hopefully Ashley’s hand, we would need at least 1 replacement, a proper strike partner for Cisse or a proper winger/wide forward to compliment him in a 4-3-3. If nothing is done then Pardew needs to find a way to fit them both in, or rotate them.

It’s a sad example of player power winning over and it shouldn’t have been allowed to get this far. But then imagine the fan revolt if, in the summer, Pardew had said to Ba he should play where he is told and then Ba jumps ship?

January will be interesting, something has to give, we can’t go on all season playing the two of them in a 4-3-3 and no progress has been made with the two of them playing as a partnership.

Thoughts?

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11 comments
Chemical Dave
Chemical Dave

Why does any Newcastle fan care what fans of other clubs or the press think ? Do people need that reassurance? Stuff them.

NUFC Tips
NUFC Tips

To repeat the point that all national journalists seem to overlook, I wanted rid of Pardew because he was a 'Yes Man'.

Beyond that, he also had a terrible record over his last three years at Newcastle, but his lack of managerial ability wasn't my primary reason for wanting rid of him. I wanted him to leave because he was a 'Yes man', a coward and Ashley's puppet. The long term view is more important than the short term view, and we would never achieve success with a puppet who was afraid to tell Ashley the necessary truths.

As it turns out, weve now got another 'Yes Man' who's too cowardly to tell Ashley the truth, and no doubt if Carver leaves then Ashley will be looking to replace him with another 'Yes man'. That's how Ashley works. He's got the personailty of a six year old kid. He can't take honest criticism so he surrounds himself with sycophants.

But for the record, I will never respect any manager who acts as Ashley's puppet. I don't expect a manager to be as honest as us the fans and constantly criticise Ashley for being the leech he is, but a diplomatic middle ground, such as that demonstrated by Chris Hughton, isn't too much to ask for.

Paul Patterson
Paul Patterson

Utter rubbish!


I was never a Pardew fan and by the end, it was time for him to go. However I saw the job he was doing in relation to the restrictions placed on him and he was doing a decent job.


We had 26 points after his final game against Everton (December 28th)

We now have 36.

Palace were certain to be relegated, we were certain to be safe.

Now . .

Chemical Dave
Chemical Dave

You don't think we could've gone on a similar run had Pardew still been manager ? Check out our results from January until the end of October bud.

philrenner09
philrenner09

Would have been better if he had stayed till end of season then left, but the abuse he was taking its not surprising he decided to leave. Some vocal fans got what they wanted a geordie boss ( complete prat). Just hope tomoz we can scrape a win then get a real coach/manager in with some new players who can improve us. Played well first half at QPR then went to sleep - what do they have at half time drugs ?  Strange how every now and then Pardew pulled out unexpected wins and Carver seems to consistently pull out unexpected defeats. Been watching NUFC since 1967 and cant remember a more gutless team. I dont except Ashleys way of running the club but will be here long after hes gone and probably see out the next owners as well UP the TOON.

Sickandtiredstill
Sickandtiredstill

@philrenner09 You're doing it as well! The bloke clearly stated he left for his own reason, not because of fans in the ground but rather because of Ashley's financial stranglehold-

"For me personally and professionally it was the right time, and the right time for Newcastle. It was my decision.

"(Palace chairman) Steve Parish met the (buy-out) clause in my contract and I had a decision to make and for me it was the right decision. Four years under that type of monetary situation and the fact (Newcastle) are trying to push (on), and the history, it was difficult for a manager."

Sickandtiredstill
Sickandtiredstill

Pure journo garbage, just like the 100 managers or players we are going to sign. Christ sake the bloke came out himself and made it very clear he was NEVER threatened here at any time.

"But away from the pitch there wasn't one incident or anywhere I couldn't go. Nobody was nasty to me. Nobody threatened me. Load of old tosh."

Daily Mail interview, April 10th.


Wallsendstu
Wallsendstu

Spot on. We have witnessed on many occasions this spin put out by Bishop the fat man's PR guru. It was also stated that Rangers supporters were attacking Lambias in Glasgow hotels. If this had happened we would have been told about it by Pardew at the time after all as said earlier they have suggested this many times since the fat man took to destroying our great club.

Hez
Hez

Could have happened as people lost their heads(including this blog) with the Pardew thing, he could not do anything without people foaming at the mouth. I doubt they confronted him in the garden though, that's the press making a story

LeazesEnder
LeazesEnder

Most of the houses in Darras Hall have huge hedges to blank out the local riff raff.... ....where was he living........St Anthonys?