Whether it is the Champions or Europa League for Newcastle United, they could have a key role in deciding whether the English Premier League remains number one in terms of club football.

UEFA’s system gives points to teams on the basis of reaching each stage of a competition and for wins and draws. You then tot up all the points for all the teams a country has in European competition, divide the total by the number of teams, and that is your country co-efficient. On the basis of five seasons’ returns, to balance out freak good or bad results, you then rank the countries and award places.

England (Premier League) are currently top but this is more to do with consistency than real success. The last time the English league was top in any particular season was 2007/08 when an English club coincidentally last won a European trophy, Manchester United in the Champions League.

Since then the English league has remained number one (average over the last five seasons) but the countries who have finished top in individual seasons since then have been Ukraine (2008/09), Germany (2009/10), Portugal (2010/11) and this current season it will be Spain – regardless as to whether Chelsea win the final or not.

Much of other countries’ success is down to performances in the Europa League where English clubs have been generally dismal, not helped by many of them putting weakened teams out.

Next season will be a real struggle for England to remain top because 2007/08 points fall off and will be replaced by next season’s European performances, Spain will start with a sizeable advantage and if the English teams don’t outperform them in both the Champions League AND Europa League then the self-professed greatest league on the planet won’t be, if you see what I mean.

The ‘big’ clubs won’t worry too much at the minute as the top three countries get four Champions League places and the top three (England, Spain and Germany) are actually increasing the gap to Italy in fourth.

The fact remains though that Newcastle will be representing both club and country next season and I have a pretty strong feeling the Premier League marketing executives will be praying that Newcastle United do the business, ‘second best league in Europe’ doesn’t quite have the same ring to it!

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DownUnderMag
DownUnderMag

I don't think many fans have truly forgotten (or forgave) the incident against Southampton when he launched an all out verbal attack on some away supporters.  Since getting the hot seat full time he has not yet apologised for this either.  I suspect if he had then he would be getting a little more sympathy than he is right now.


however, having said that, I agree with the sentiment that he had the opportunity to do something about the playing squad in January rather than sit back and take it up the arse from the owner in order to look after himself and make sure he got the job.  Well, you make your bed and you lie in it.....and he made his bed in January so he has no right in complaining now about the size or quality of the squad when he refused to say anything when something COULD have been done about it!

stepaylor
stepaylor

Im not against Carver i think he is doing his best. But sadly that will not be enough. We have no leaders, no depth of quality, no ambition from the ownership, no passion now from the fans.


People venting their anger at Carver is wrong. Ashley and his boring guy at the club Penfold are the people who need a slap.


We need a club that talks to the fans, accepts their involvement and makes decisions in the best interests of the teams quality within a framework we can financially afford.


Football clubs should be non profit, community and fan run entities. NOT BUSINESS's the government need to intervene here.

DownUnderMag
DownUnderMag

@stepaylor it's not so much fan involvement...fans shouldn't really be involved at a day-to-day running of a football club. BUT they SHOULD be taken into consideration, communicated with and given credit for being an important part of any football club (not just ours).  It's the contempt fans are shown that really is bang out of order and shows just how far removed from the reality of football Ashley really is!

GP2
GP2

I agree more with the point of why am I paying to see this rubbish to be honest. If things stay as they are I may well be off to non-league next season for some light refreshment.


If JC has had no influence on how the team was managed then how is he in any way qualified to manage them? As any part of the coaching team you would have a voice on the shape of the squad and an input into what is needed. I accept that his influence on new signings would be nil, but on the shape of the squad and existing players if he is leading the coaching every day then if not he should have gone for not doing his job.


Also, the focus of what I'm saying is NUFC and not the individuals. We have just lost 7 games, so there is something wrong with the squad which could and should have easily been addressed. Keeping a few squad players may have only papered over the gaps but it would have certainly got us a few more points.

wor monga
wor monga

It’s the easiest thing in the world to knock Carver, and the team…but to suggest he had any influence about who could go or stay at the club…is taking it a bit too far, don’t you think…maybe you’d be happier just supporting the Robins, and leave it at that?

Andgeo
Andgeo

If he had any morals or real guts he would not be working for fatty! Money talks...

Sickandtiredstill
Sickandtiredstill

@wor monga If he had or has no influence, then why did he publicly state (and agree) we didn't need any signings in January - and that he is being included in the upcoming Summer plans?

How far are people prepared to go to pass the buck on JC? Sorry, but it's hard to feel sorry for a man so adept at making an ar@e of himself every time he opens his (contradictory) mouth, or indeed with every game played.

He's responsible in his own ways. He's part of the problem, not just a victim of it.


prestondave
prestondave

Why are you paying to watch this shambles.? Dont go simple as that. Whether its home or away they are still crap and still being run by a crap manager. Same sh*t, different ground.