Whether it is the Champions or Europa League for Newcastle United, they could have a key role in deciding whether the English Premier League remains number one in terms of club football.

UEFA’s system gives points to teams on the basis of reaching each stage of a competition and for wins and draws. You then tot up all the points for all the teams a country has in European competition, divide the total by the number of teams, and that is your country co-efficient. On the basis of five seasons’ returns, to balance out freak good or bad results, you then rank the countries and award places.

England (Premier League) are currently top but this is more to do with consistency than real success. The last time the English league was top in any particular season was 2007/08 when an English club coincidentally last won a European trophy, Manchester United in the Champions League.

Since then the English league has remained number one (average over the last five seasons) but the countries who have finished top in individual seasons since then have been Ukraine (2008/09), Germany (2009/10), Portugal (2010/11) and this current season it will be Spain – regardless as to whether Chelsea win the final or not.

Much of other countries’ success is down to performances in the Europa League where English clubs have been generally dismal, not helped by many of them putting weakened teams out.

Next season will be a real struggle for England to remain top because 2007/08 points fall off and will be replaced by next season’s European performances, Spain will start with a sizeable advantage and if the English teams don’t outperform them in both the Champions League AND Europa League then the self-professed greatest league on the planet won’t be, if you see what I mean.

The ‘big’ clubs won’t worry too much at the minute as the top three countries get four Champions League places and the top three (England, Spain and Germany) are actually increasing the gap to Italy in fourth.

The fact remains though that Newcastle will be representing both club and country next season and I have a pretty strong feeling the Premier League marketing executives will be praying that Newcastle United do the business, ‘second best league in Europe’ doesn’t quite have the same ring to it!

15 comments
G Dubz
G Dubz

Signing is some 19yr old kid for 300k from the second division, I'm not excited are u?

wor monga
wor monga

It’s not easy…the selling club has to be satisfied first…then the agent (agents) has to be satisfied…and most importantly the Player has to also want to come…he’s in demand, and he may have certain preferences which means a club like ours might have to sell themselves very dearly…


...it’s not as easy as buying an ice cream although to read some of the offerings on here there’s quite a few think it is!!

phillstinchy
phillstinchy

I agree that its not as easy as buying ice cream (although that was a very good/funny analogy)

But it is not rocket science either !!

1, Have a list

2, Enquire with Club (If you agree with valuation, then pay it, if not move on to next name!)

3, If bid is excepted, then negotiate with agent and player and pay him what's he worth. If he doesn't want to come, same as above applies.... Move on to next name!)

4, If point 2 and 3 has gone well you have a new transfer!

Take the Charlie Austin example,

Leicester bid 12m and it was

rejected,why?? Because QPR want 15m.

If you believe what has been heavily rumoured and we want him then i have a simple tip for the board.... Pay the f@#king 15m !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Duke Fame
Duke Fame

@phillstinchy The bids will be matched to the highest bid, Leicester are more than likely creating a smokesceen for another target, there is no advantage in going public and they know Austin will not go to them.


He's on honeymoon, I suspect he's weighing up the chances of getting a game at Chelsea as that's the 'ambitious' move, moving his family oop norf again, the difficult but could be rewarding move or taking Saints of West Ham which will be the easy compromise. 


I suspect Chelsea will make him richer, us & the others will be similar wages.


No it's not as east as just paying the £15m. Qpr will prefer to sell to us or Chelsea simply we will pay the fee in one go.  

phillstinchy
phillstinchy

@Duke Fame I do agree with you with the potential choices and dilemmas he has.

I used him as an example as to how to progress a transfer in response to @Wor Monga,

But with him we won't know 100% if he will or not if we don't offer what they want. Chris Ramsey was interviewed on talkSPORT yesterday and sai they haven't received a single bid at the asking price.

We are not going to get to the negotiating table with anyone decent not paying what his club wants, or at least close,like the Monaco centre back ( I cant spell his name sorry), we bid £12m, they value him around £21m. (I'm not saying pay £21m for him before I get slaughtered, its another example of the way they are conducting business)

In Sports Direct if I take a pair of £70 trainers to the counter and instead of paying the cashier that amount only give her £40, what do you think will happen?

Jezza_NUFC
Jezza_NUFC

@wor monga  It's not easy you say? Well how comes all the other clubs in the Premiership seem to manage to sign new players during the transfer window?


It's only not easy to sign players when your club has got an owner who's policy for the past 8 years has been to sacrifice footballing success to line his own pockets.


Jezza_NUFC
Jezza_NUFC

I think he has been misquoted. What he meant new signs rather than signings are imminent at St James's Park. As in yet more awful red and blue signs emblazoned all over the stadium to advertise the fat parasite's horrible business. 

mactoon
mactoon

Whether it is intentionally misleading information from the club or just premature announcements of deals that take longer than intended it still shows you shouldn't take any notice of the press speculation. It's well recorded Newcastle do not discuss their targets or transfer kitty so the stories of 90 + targets we have been linked with are obviously wide of the mark. We will see players when they are signed

WilliamCarney
WilliamCarney

@mactoon Your right about Newcastle not sharing info to the press about transfers until they are actually done and dusted, a lot of the speculations that come from the press are more accurate than what you might think, the reason for this is because the press know who our agents are and follow them, so when the press see one of our agents going to a certain city or talking to another agent they know what our most likely candidates are in that city or from that agent, however a lot of transfer dealings are done primarily over a phonel.

TonnekToon
TonnekToon

I'm sure there will be signings . But of what caliber ?

Duke Fame
Duke Fame

@TonnekToon Well, Georginio Wijnaldum should be announced this week, he is almost perfect for us.



Chemical Dave
Chemical Dave

Not sure why people are fretting over signings, they will be coming as the sole objective of them arriving is to keep the gullible and the curious content.

Duke Fame
Duke Fame

@Chemical Dave heads the moaners win, tails the optimists lose?


We'll see, as ever but I get the feeling that you and a few others are determined that NUFC fails just so you can say "I told you so". 

LeazesEnder
LeazesEnder

Of course signings are imminent.... so is the start of the season!