Newcastle United v Liverpool
Sunday 1 April 2012 1.30pm
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If we thought we’d had a strange season then what about the red scousers?

In various competitions they have beaten Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal and Chelsea, yet in their last two matches they were beaten by QPR having led by two, then were beaten by relegation favourites Wigan at Anfield? How can you explain that?

Well I think I can, it comes down to attitude/mentality/team spirit or whatever – for all the rubbish their media chums spout, this is eleven individuals who as a team just haven’t done it in the league. They’ve only won 11 out of 30 league matches and even with ‘King Kenny’ at the helm the natives were booing from the Kop when the final whistle went against Wigan.

Much as we will point to injuries to the likes of Steven Taylor and Tiote handicapping us, they have solid performers like Agger and Lucas on long-term sick, though with the money Dalglish has spent (wasted!) a few injuries should hve been only a minor problem. Added to that, Adam and Bellamy are likely to miss out through injury. if the Welsh whinger was to miss then that would be undoubtedly a plus as for me he is one of their top performers.

Closer to home, we gratefully welcome back Cheick Tiote and Ryan Taylor, with it being a no-brainer for the Ivory coaster to slip back in and take the fight to the scousers. Interesting to see whether the manager will prefer Santon or Taylor at left-back, with Perch a certainty to partner Williamson in the middle.

Naturally there will be more than a hit of pantomime surrounding the match as the likes of Dalglish, Carroll and Enrique return to St.James’ Park.

The six points picked up against Norwich and West Brom combined with zero points for the visitors from their last two matches, means that as well as eight points between the teams, United must hold the upper hand in confidence going into this clash.

Even those with the shortest of memories will need no reminding of bad experiences in the past against Liverpool, so there will be no room for complacency.

If our forwards spend more time getting the opposition on the back foot then I think we’ll be ok.

While it was good to see the commitment that ground out the win against Norwich, it was even better to see the attacking style that took West Brom apart on their home patch.

It is still early days but there can’t be many black & whites who aren’t desperate to see if Ba, Ben Arfa and Papiss Cissé can continue the blinding form of last week.

If any additional spice were needed for this fixture then there is the enticing prospect of if Chelsea fail to win at Villa tomorrow, then we will go into our match knowing victory would take us into a clear fifth with seven matches to play!

Everything to play for and I just can’t wait.

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31 comments
magpie9
magpie9

They could have bid for Messi & all the Barcelona team but their chances are the same for getting any bid for a quality player accepted, ZERO! No team will accept half price for players & no players will play for peanuts

JohnyH
JohnyH

I don't care who they sign now, I'm not going back till the FCB is gone.

I don't believe any of this crap anyway, they've been waiting for someone to come in for Sissoko, Krull and Perez. Then they'd give us a load of guff about them wanting away.

So without the self financing transfer kitty, McClaren can't bring players in.

It's a f.......g joke.

DownUnderMag
DownUnderMag

The Chronicle has completely gone to the Ashley camp, they are now nothing more than a PR spokesperson for the rot at the club!

Having said that, even if the bids are real, as we've seen in the past there is a big difference between BIDDING and meeting the player or the clubs expectations.  No doubt we will be hearing shortly how the clubs hiked the price, had unrealistic expectations or the players agent got greedy and strung them along to wait for other clubs to show an interest.  I don't want to hear about bidding for players, I want to hear about us SIGNING players.

CraigMoore
CraigMoore

@DownUnderMag "they are now nothing more than a PR spokesperson for the rot at the club!"

Well of course; they were allowed back in. It's very interesting seeing how they swing from anti-Ashley to pro-Ashley depending entirely on whether or not they're allowed in SJP or not.

Or maybe they just got sick and paid the presser entrance fee...

wor monga
wor monga

What story is there about fans boycotting season tickets?…it’s nothing more unusual than supporters using some common financial sense, and deciding not to commit themselves to shelling out in advance for another full season like the last one…


…most likely the vast majority are just waiting to see what signings are made before putting money down…or wanting to see how the team will perform under Maclaren…or even just deciding which games they want to attend on the day…  


…Believe it or not that’s how a lot of clubs have to manage in this day and age!!!

mactoon
mactoon

@wor monga  Clubs usually state around a 6% drop in season ticket sales at the time of writing. NUFC has a 30% fall. Do the math

wor monga
wor monga

@mactoon       Not necessary to do any maths…


...supporters are deciding not to pay out for a full season in advance, and are waiting to see what happens in the transfer window before they commit their hard earned cash…


...that’s not a boycott…it’s simply a case of using good financial sense, before deciding which way they will attend games this season!!.

CraigMoore
CraigMoore

@wor monga @mactoon I think you'll find that not renewing (twice extended, remember) absolutely can be considered a boycott. For some reason, I don't think people are really all that interested in throwing away their years of loyalty points to "wait and see".

Andgeo
Andgeo

It doesn't really matter how many bids you put in for players when mike ashley and co have an unrealistic valuation of players. This has become a bad reputation and has got to the point where the directors of other clubs laugh at our offers.

They seem to be either bidding for players who don't want to come or with players that would come are then offering 50% of what the selling club want.

Even when a fee is not required we are offering less than everyone else on wages.

Anyone would thing the fat scumbag was hard up!!

mactoon
mactoon

@Andgeo  That is spot on. Remember the Keegan deal for Hypia? it was all arranged by Keegan he told the board (Llambias I think) to do the deal then he got a call from the players agent telling him the deal was off as they had offered almost half of the amount agreed with Keegan. The model is flawed and will lead to the downfall of te club unless they open their eyes

KevinBrown11
KevinBrown11

Your telling me that two thirds have renewed there ST, how gullible are they, we may well have tabled bids but going on past history well below what their respective clubs want, and that's the same every summer couldn't quite get them over the bloody line!!

KevinBrown11
KevinBrown11

Totally agree with you, I for one didn't believe that staged speech he gave, he's a pathological liar and doesn't know when he is telling a lie or the truth, the thing is he's banking on gullible fans to renew ST's I for one will not be renewing, Ashley out.

ArtyH
ArtyH

@Andgeo  IMHO its both, by his own admission he knows nothing about football, so to have any idea of a players worth he needs advice. When he gets the advice he clearly pays no notice to it and plays his own game and on past performance puts his own bid in, or its put in on his behalf. What is the point of having advisors if you take no notice of their advice? Its an ever decreasing circle which is strangling the club, we need to break free of this tyrannical setup. 

Andgeo
Andgeo

The questions are; is it done intentionally to stir up a bit of speculation to sell tickets? Or do they simply not know what they are doing and are completely out of touch with the football world? We might presume the first as someone with that clout surely can't be that stupid, but all the evidence suggests it is probably the latter. If ashley actually employed the right people to advise him, we might start to move in the right direction. But I'm well past giving him a chance to turn it around. Ashley out, and sued for damages!

Alsteads
Alsteads

@KevinBrown11 Your right fella. I can't believe they have managed to sell that amount. Still plenty go mugs that will go though so we'll have another season where the club is torn in two with no soul. We have to be favourites to go down surely??

ArtyH
ArtyH

Just my rule of thumb, dont believe anything you read in the papers or see on $ky sports until its verified by the club. Dont believe any speculation by your mate who claim they know. Its been proved time and again TFCB does his own thing, nothing will change that. When a player is wearing the stripes then you can allow your self to believe he has signed. At this moment in time I still think as supporters we are in for a big disappointment with respect to new signings. History states there may be new players coming through the doors, but the quality will be ordinary or sub standard. I would love to be wrong........ 

LeazesEnder
LeazesEnder

@ArtyH .....You're right......but can we believe board member Bob Moncur....  he wears a nice suit and some sort of hat on his head..... I can't wait for the next weekly column by Bob....



....his weekly column is a bit late this week..... maybe nothings happening!

ArtyH
ArtyH

@LeazesEnder @ArtyH  Sadly no mate, its a shame as he was an icon many moons ago but has been absorbed into the cess pit we now know as OUR club. He is Ashley's puppet, and like so many others cannot be believed. I think he is so deluded he may even believe what he is saying is true. Sad very sad.

jack1x
jack1x

Only three. ?.lol , of course there's a link , in the courts it would be termed.as blackmail , I for one won't be renewing anything. , until I see see at least three top.quality siginings across the line .And as far as great things going on behind the scenes , does that mean the tea urn is being overworked .We will always be kept in the dark that's the nature of the beast with this regime , Urge all Newcastle supporters not to renew till they see even a modicum of progress and urgency

ArtyH
ArtyH

Unbelievable that so many numpties have renewed! They will never learn, and continue to just suck it up.

Oldgit
Oldgit

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Nice to see that my sacrifice in not renewing my season ticket is appreciated, although to be fair it was not much to sacrifice with the standard of football I had to watch. I despise the owner and lee charnley. There is not a another club in the premiership that has to put up with the contempt that this club has shown to their supporters . The total lack of communication, the secrecy. The behind closed doors attitude. The proven lies told. The whole club stinks and I for one has chosen not to renew. I previously gave the club the ultimatum of wanting to see some decent players signed by the 5th July or my money will be going on a month long cruise. It’s in their court now. A doubt they will care. A lone voice perhaps but there are others who have not renewed. I salute you.

Hez
Hez

I can't believe people have actually spent their own money on a season ticket next year. If I had to go just buy the odd ticket, how could you pay to sit through that rubbish every week knowing the ethics and morals of the owner

BartonoftheBrow
BartonoftheBrow

Another Bishop comic story lapped up by the trinity mirror group,have no respect in the EC,Penfold had better get his finger out of his behind or its going to be a poisonous start to the season.

Tubbs out!! HWTF

magpiefifer
magpiefifer

'Actions speak louder than words' and 'talk is cheap' both spring to mind - especially with the shower running our club.

The Chron journos have no credibility where the fans are concerned - they have had so many opportunities to give incisive,damning coverage of the goings-on at Ashley's circus!

Nothing changed then!?

LeazesEnder
LeazesEnder

Mark Douglas and Lee Ryder aren't United fans.....  Ryders Chum Luke Edwards was the first to break the story in the 'Nationals'.... its looking like the Chronicle is becoming a complete irrelevance to both the club and its long suffering fans.


Its impossible to shame Ryder into speaking up, as he communicates with fans less than Ashley.... completely ignores concerns until its too late..... no wonder he has a permanent posse taking pot shots at every utterance....every day....

LeazesEnder
LeazesEnder

@Porciestreet @LeazesEnder You could buy the pink outside the ground on the final whistle.... mind they only reported the first half and put the final scores into the late news column at the edge.... it was faster than Rob Lee heading for the exit when it was his turn to buy a round.... and the ink was still wet.

prestondave
prestondave

Smoke and mirrors. The drama continues and nothing positive happening. Fatty will leave it till the very last minute then panic buy some dross players(s) that would fit ok into a League 1 team. Nothing changes under the sloths rule.

Porciestreet
Porciestreet

Bids in don't mean nowt at all. Give the fat thief nothing till he sings the Blaydon Races.