As if it wasn’t bad enough Harry Redknapp openly speculating about Demba Ba’s contract position, we now have West Ham’s Joint Chairman, David Sullivan, doing the same. Are we finding the true ‘Cockney Mafia’ here, all banding together because ‘them Geordie’ have got one over on them?

Whatever the legalities of the situation, it surely has to be totally morally out of order for a club owner to be talking so openly about what a former employee might or might not have in his contract.

In an interview with independent West Ham website, David Sullivan alleges that Demba Ba would get half of anything over £7m if Newcastle sell him.

I don’t know what I believe in relation to Ba’s contract but what I am sure of is that West Ham massively cocked things up and that Sullivan is one bitter man. Result!

Ian Dale (Westhamtillidie): How did that work?  (In relation to Demba Ba allegedly having a get out if West Ham relegated) Did we pay money to Hoffenheim?

David Sullivan: I’ll tell you exactly what happened. We wanted to loan him, but Hoffenheim said they wouldn’t loan him as they could get 6 million euros for him from Stoke. He then failed the medical at Stoke. I went back and asked to loan him again. Again they said no, but they would sell him to us. So we paid 500,000 euros down, which was almost like a loan fee, and then we’d pay 5 ½ million euros starting the next season depending on how many games he played – one level of payment in the Championship, one level of payment on the Premier League. I’ll have to make the figures up because I can’t remember, but something like 25,000 euros a game in the Premier League and 10,000 euros in the Championship. Demba Ba signed a three and a half year contract with us. We had a deal where his salary would be halved if we were relegated. He said, “Well on that basis, I have got to be allowed to walk if we get relegated”. What we should have said in retrospect – but none of us thought he would score so many goals – is that we’d be happy to give him £40 grand a week in the Championship. In the end I offered him £45 grand a week to stay but he wouldn’t take it. What we should have said was that if we don’t halve your salary, you haven’t got a get-out. The failure to put that one line in the contract cost us very, very dearly. As I say, he was on £35 grand a week and I offered him £45 grand a week to stay, but he went to Newcastle. His agent got £2 million to take him to Newcastle.

ID: So do Newcastle now have to pay to Hoffenheim the money you would have had to pay?

DS: No. That’s why Newcastle could always outbid us. It was our deal with Hoffenheim.

ID: So Hoffenheim got stuffed, then.

DS: Yup, they got half a million for him. This didn’t work for anyone except Demba Ba… and Newcastle. I’m told he’s got a £7 million get-out at Newcastle and he gets half the money over that. They keep denying it but I think you’ll see in the summer he will leave Newcastle or he’ll get a monstrous rise to stay there. If they get about four million, half will go to him, so if they sell him for £7 million they’ll only net about three because they paid his agent £2 million to get him out of here. Getting £3 million is not bad, but for a player of his quality it’s not fantastic. It’s one of those mistakes that happen, but it’s probably one of the worst mistakes I have ever made in my life. It just didn’t enter our heads. it didn’t enter anybody’s head that he’d score enough goals that we’d want to give him £40k a week and his old club £15/20k an appearance and we’d still be relegated. In reality that’s exactly what happened. The agent just threw it in at the last minute. He said “Obviously if his salary is cut by 50% you’ve got to let him walk”. We thought, OK, if we get relegated, do we really want a £40k a week striker in the Championship? Well, we would have because he was devastating. If he was with us now and his knee had held up, because remember, he did have a very very bad knee, I think we’d be 15 points clear, I really do. He’d be cutting through those defences. You live and you learn.


GToon 5pts

I think people want to come here because they see our country as being a good place for people to live. That's a compliment surely? If I lived in Syria I would want to leave and get my family to a safer place where my kids could grow up and have a future. What is their alternative? Try and argue with I.S? Sport generally brings people and countries together which is why Munich have made that gesture I reckon. Good for them.

Happyharrys2011 5pts

It's a tough life for these people no doubt, and very sad to see these images of dead children on the beach, but our country needs to get its own house I order befor we take on other countries problems. If they really are refugees seeking asylum why do they travel through all of the other countries before they get here?

It's for economic reasons pure and simple!

So unfortunately I have no sympathy for these so called asylum seekers who have come through another country first!

Yes they need help, yes they need to be out of Syria, but if they are seeking asylum why bypass all these other countries when they have asylum there?

grahame49 5pts

I live in Byker and its a mixed old bag of races religions etc, on a match day if your in black and white your one of us. im a 50 year old dad, granda and all I wanted to do was cuddle and kiss that young bairns forehead when I seen that picture of him alone washed up on the beach.

LeazesEnder 5pts

I blame William Hague for tagging along behind Uncle Sam and causing the crisis in the first place!

Wayne Clayton
Wayne Clayton 5pts

Do you think that could be the Germans shelling out a few quid to stop as many refugees landing on their doorstep? After Angela Merkel had a proper hissy-fit with us Brits for not "doing our bit"? Not saying it's connected but... Little bit of politics there, my name is "Wayne Elton". Goodnight.

Wayne Clayton
Wayne Clayton 5pts

Slightly tongue in cheek comment @Munich Mag. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of Merkel telling the UK to do more when we have already done far more than Germany to date.

Michael Maximus Moose
Michael Maximus Moose 5pts

Sky news reported today that the British Government, thats me & you have given 1 Billion in aid for the refugees

thats more the the whole of the EU combined, we`ve done our bit !!

WilliamCarney 5pts

@Michael Maximus Moose If I had my say they wouldn't of got that money, that money could of been used for better things in our own country, how many british people are in need of help right now and never get any? our goverment is a push over, we need out of the EU.

WilliamCarney 5pts

Look at these refugee's, the way they behave even at a train station, and none of them will even let our goverment take their finger prints so they can stay and never go back home when it's time too. do not let them in our country full stop.

GToon 5pts

Behave at stations? They are fighting for a better live, not a double seat! How would you have them behave? Hope we never end up as desperate as they are.

GToon 5pts

And I don't believe if you were there and a family was begging you for the chance to live in the UK that you would say no. People have migrated across the world through the ages. There's just more media coverage these days. That's said with my Scottish blood, sat next to my Irish wife with my north eastern roots, a slight midlands accent, sat in my comfy West Midlands home that the locals didn't mind me buying. Lucky me. And let me just say that I always tell people down here just how kind and friendly people up north are. That's why I'm proud to say I'm from there despite living down here so long.

wor monga
wor monga 5pts

This has nothing to do with football…it’s political, and the sport should not get involved in either politics or religion seeing as it invariably ends up causing trouble between different factions…

...What would you recommend the UK government do though put free flights on from Hungary to Heathrow or cruise liners to pick up at Libya?...saves any big donations falling into the hands of the people smugglers!!

Brown Bottle
Brown Bottle 5pts

@wor monga ..the U.K. has taken 5000 Syrian refugees. Germany has taken 5,000,000. Get a perspective knackers.

WilliamCarney 5pts

We don't want any refugee's in our country, we have been taking in refugee's for a long long time, even before this crisis started, we already have too many, they nackered their own country so what makes you think we want them to come here and nacker our country as well? we should be trying to get rid of them not inviting them.

Munich Mag
Munich Mag 5pts

@WilliamCarney "they" knackered "there own" country...  i've got a bath sponge with a higher iq than you...

RaySte 5pts

@WilliamCarney Mate you can't use an apostrophe properly or spell 'knackered'... but hey, I'm sure you're well qualified to comment on complicated international crises.

AlanShearerNo9 5pts

Apparently the £730,000 is for 73,000 Syrian trialists. Bayern Munchen have decided to model their youth development program on Chelsea's, but just not to the same scale......:-)  Look for 72,999 loan deals come January......

Leazes_62 5pts

So now an NUFC fan site is being used to promote political adgenda? What next , Corbyn campaign bo11ox?

Shaker_Shakrah 5pts

My aunt went to Germany with her family as refugee 2 years ago and she is doing okay now

it's about the government , The british government don't want Syrian refugees , They just like to talk

as a Syrian I am just really proud & thankful to see !!!! to see a club Bayern Munich care about my Syrian brothers ?!?!?! is amazing

PeterMiller1 5pts

The international aid budget has been ring fenced while the rest of the public sector has had to endure cuts. Syrian refugees in camps in the middle east have recieved over £50 miliion over the pass 4 years. This might not be enought but to compare it to what some other countries from europe and the middle east it's an absolute fortune. Critise the goverment for not taking in refugees but don't imply they do noting for syrian refugees.

Munich Mag
Munich Mag 5pts

@PeterMiller1 50 million over 4 years is an absolute fortune ? Where did you read that one, in the Beano ?